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It gets personal

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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #6

    Hoping your noble medical research project is saved from the pyre.

    The uncertainty you are under is so wasteful and unnecessary. A dictatorship of the inept executed by mindless bean counters

    Elbows up!

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #7

      Hope things turn in the right direction for you @jon-nyc .

      Killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer is not the right answer.

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #8

        Our PI has't gotten a stop work letter yet so it seems like a good sign. Some colleagues of hers have for CDC-associated work. Maybe NIH really was excluded. Though it's the 800lb gorilla of grant making institutions.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
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          #9

          No significant cuts on our side yet, that I’m aware of anyway.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            We lost our funding last night.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              Other possible grants?

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • AxtremusA Away
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                Axtremus
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                #12

                Try China?

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  How were you funded and what percentage? Was it one grant or more?

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    GoFundMe?

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      Is stem cell involved?
                      If not, maybe the churches can step in.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                        #16

                        It was a single U Grant originally for $6MM. I'm not exactly sure how much has been billed against it, my guess is roughly half.

                        We're looking into the possibility that one or two other center might be able to invoice the NIH directly for their participation based on the way the grant is worded, which would help. We will also fundraise against it both from interested biotechs and patients. We will also have patients send letters, especially patients in Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah which all have GOP senators and affected centers.

                        Senator Thom Tillis may not see the logic in cutting rare disease funding at UNC because Hamilton Hall was occupied last year. Ditto Mike Lee and UU.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          We lost our funding last night.

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                          xenon
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                          #17

                          @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                          We lost our funding last night.

                          That’s a bummer. Hopefully the work can continue.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            I’m working with both UNC and U of Utah now, plus Wake Forest.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              blondie
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                              #19

                              I’m sorry @jon-nyc . You and your colleagues are smart though. I’m confident you’ll find a solution.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #20

                                The work won't end, it's too important, we won't let it.

                                The bigger fear is what happens with research and clinical trials generally if the indirects get cut overnight. That's too much for a little foundation to backstop.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
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                                  #21

                                  I can see cutting future grants. Cutting active studies, especially clinical trials, is exceptionally wasteful.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    I can see cutting future grants. Cutting active studies, especially clinical trials, is exceptionally wasteful.

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    #22

                                    @Mik said in It gets personal:

                                    Cutting active studies, especially clinical trials, is exceptionally wasteful.

                                    This is more appreciated in the biomed fields but less appreciated in the computer/infotech fields.

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                                      taiwan_girl
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                                      #23

                                      Sorry for the thread hijack, but another area where the funding cuts are somewhat personal. A (distant) friend works in the Soybean Innovation Lab at the University of IL. They have lost their funding and are in the process of closing.

                                      Illinois is the leading producer of soybeans in the United States, and the industry is crucial to Illinois’ economy. According to the Illinois Department of Agriculture, Illinois is the nation’s second-leading exporter of soybeans and ranks third in the export of agricultural goods as a whole, earning over $8 billion worth.

                                      https://soybeaninnovationlab.illinois.edu

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #24

                                        Johns Hopkins laid off 2k workers yesterday.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by Horace
                                          #25

                                          That's 247 American jobs and 2000 jobs in other countries.

                                          https://thedailyrecord.com/2025/03/13/johns-hopkins-university-to-cut-2200-jobs-amid-lost-federal-funding/

                                          Education is extremely important.

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