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It gets personal

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Hopefully Trump switches from hatchet mode to surgical knife sooner rather than later. Sorry to hear. There are lots of lives being massively impacted by this in all sorts of ways for no reason other than haste and headlines.

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      I read that they weren’t canceling NiH grants at Columbia. Nicht wahr?

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #4

        Not a lot of details yet but the press release came from HHS, DoE, and GSA. I think GSA is just helping craft the individual cancellation letters. I tried to reread my link but GSA site is down for ‘maintenance’.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          jon-nyc
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          Having said that, there are not a lot of details released yet.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
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            #6

            Hoping your noble medical research project is saved from the pyre.

            The uncertainty you are under is so wasteful and unnecessary. A dictatorship of the inept executed by mindless bean counters

            Elbows up!

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              taiwan_girl
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              #7

              Hope things turn in the right direction for you @jon-nyc .

              Killing a mosquito with a sledgehammer is not the right answer.

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #8

                Our PI has't gotten a stop work letter yet so it seems like a good sign. Some colleagues of hers have for CDC-associated work. Maybe NIH really was excluded. Though it's the 800lb gorilla of grant making institutions.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Offline
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                  No significant cuts on our side yet, that I’m aware of anyway.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #10

                    We lost our funding last night.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Other possible grants?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        #12

                        Try China?

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          #13

                          How were you funded and what percentage? Was it one grant or more?

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Axtremus
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                            #14

                            GoFundMe?

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                            • AxtremusA Away
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                              Axtremus
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                              #15

                              Is stem cell involved?
                              If not, maybe the churches can step in.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                #16

                                It was a single U Grant originally for $6MM. I'm not exactly sure how much has been billed against it, my guess is roughly half.

                                We're looking into the possibility that one or two other center might be able to invoice the NIH directly for their participation based on the way the grant is worded, which would help. We will also fundraise against it both from interested biotechs and patients. We will also have patients send letters, especially patients in Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Utah which all have GOP senators and affected centers.

                                Senator Thom Tillis may not see the logic in cutting rare disease funding at UNC because Hamilton Hall was occupied last year. Ditto Mike Lee and UU.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  We lost our funding last night.

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                                  xenon
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                                  @jon-nyc said in It gets personal:

                                  We lost our funding last night.

                                  That’s a bummer. Hopefully the work can continue.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    I’m working with both UNC and U of Utah now, plus Wake Forest.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      blondie
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                                      #19

                                      I’m sorry @jon-nyc . You and your colleagues are smart though. I’m confident you’ll find a solution.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #20

                                        The work won't end, it's too important, we won't let it.

                                        The bigger fear is what happens with research and clinical trials generally if the indirects get cut overnight. That's too much for a little foundation to backstop.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          I can see cutting future grants. Cutting active studies, especially clinical trials, is exceptionally wasteful.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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