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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote last edited by
    #986

    Yes, I have heard reports. They say a few windfalls were to be had.

    Elbows up!

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

      Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

      MikM Offline
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      wrote last edited by
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      @Renauda said:

      Like I said, I can't make heads or tails of it.

      Maybe it’s just Trump trying to calm con down the markets.

      That was the alternative I was thinking of.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        #988

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • MikM Offline
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          #989

          I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            #990

            Funny, just yesterday as Trump was talking about these deal makers, I was thinking (and truly I'm no expert at all), who exactly is in charge in that country to make decisions?

            I'm not really sure what the goal is here, last year I thought we wiped out all of their nuke bomb facilities. Guess not? Maybe we should've waited for there to be mass protests in the street and then fly in overheads and wipe out the leadership the people were protesting against, then let the protest momentum continue?

            Right now we seem to be in the business of creating bomb vacuums against an enemy whose defense strategy is to randomly shoot missiles and drones at everyone around them while shitting in their own pool so no one can swim.

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            • MikM Mik

              I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

              RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote last edited by Renauda
              #991

              @Mik said:

              I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

              According to BBC reporting the Iranians have said that right now “the US is negotiating with itself”:
              https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3Ac827718d-a478-4809-aba4-dcf6f4f1dcc5#post

              Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Mik said:

                I have a feeling no one is really in charge in Iran.

                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-war-updates-tehran-says-trump-s-claim-us-wants-deal-is-fake-news/ar-AA1ZmtKi

                According to BBC reporting the Iranians have said that right now “the US is negotiating with itself”:
                https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3Ac827718d-a478-4809-aba4-dcf6f4f1dcc5#post

                Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                wrote last edited by
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                @Renauda said:

                Not sure who the one telling the fibs is in this game of smoke and mirrors.

                We've actually reached the point where we can't be sure who is less trustworthy, the Iranian government or the POTUS.

                I was only joking

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                  It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • RenaudaR Offline
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                    Renauda
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                    #994

                    Iran issues its own maximalist conditions to end the war…..

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A95cce47e-33a2-4b62-a70f-e08d18561586#post

                    Seems that the Iranians were correct, Trump’s team has been negotiating these past couple of days with itself.

                    Looks like there’ll be US boots on the ground sooner rather than later.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      Iran issues its own maximalist conditions to end the war…..

                      https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A95cce47e-33a2-4b62-a70f-e08d18561586#post

                      Seems that the Iranians were correct, Trump’s team has been negotiating these past couple of days with itself.

                      Looks like there’ll be US boots on the ground sooner rather than later.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #995

                      @Renauda Unfortunately, I agree.

                      Of the five points mentioned in the article, #1 is the only one that would have any sort of possible of happening. Definitely compromises will probably have to be done on both sides. From a practical point of view, the US obviously is in the stronger position, but the longer this goes on, public opinion, etc. almost balances that out for the Iranians.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                        It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                        RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
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                        #996

                        @jon-nyc said:

                        Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                        It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                        Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                        Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @jon-nyc said:

                          Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                          It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                          Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                          Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

                          jon-nycJ Offline
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                          @Renauda said:

                          @jon-nyc said:

                          Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

                          It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

                          Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

                          Exactly.

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • RenaudaR Offline
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                            Whoever it is be rest assured Witkoff can vouch for him.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • jon-nycJ Offline
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                              Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: "The fact that they are now talking about negotiations is an admission of defeat; didn’t they claim unconditional surrender before?

                              So why are they now mobilizing their top officials to negotiate?"

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-did-iran-give-trump-he-called-the-gift-a-very-nice-thing/ar-AA1Zof3M?cvpid=125c35425ae547f88dd2b01f439bf94e

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  Interesting ‘pressure index’ created by Deutsche Bank doing a kind of technical analysis on the TACO trade.

                                  IMG_1226.jpeg

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    c3d7825b-742f-4ec3-941d-2c06371264e3-image.jpeg

                                    just a taste of what the day has been like, we've had about 7 missile alarms in the space of about two hours.

                                    this pic, not far from my house, a couple was driving that car, there was an alarm and they parked and went into a nearby shelter, and u can see a direct hit of shrapnel thru the roof and the car went flying.

                                    this makes a small little news item, "damage to car from shrapnel, no one injured"

                                    its been a crazy day.

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                                      Here’s the action shot. It’s an Arab village not far from my town.

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                                        Saw that. Crazy how that car flipped around like a toy.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                          Presented without comment.

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                                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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