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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    Iran issues its own maximalist conditions to end the war…..

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn8dldl0jx9t?post=asset%3A95cce47e-33a2-4b62-a70f-e08d18561586#post

    Seems that the Iranians were correct, Trump’s team has been negotiating these past couple of days with itself.

    Looks like there’ll be US boots on the ground sooner rather than later.

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    @Renauda Unfortunately, I agree.

    Of the five points mentioned in the article, #1 is the only one that would have any sort of possible of happening. Definitely compromises will probably have to be done on both sides. From a practical point of view, the US obviously is in the stronger position, but the longer this goes on, public opinion, etc. almost balances that out for the Iranians.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

      It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

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      @jon-nyc said:

      Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

      It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

      Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

      Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

      Elbows up!

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @jon-nyc said:

        Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

        It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

        Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

        Or maybe someone who approached Steve Witkoff through his associate Kirill Dimitriev?

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        @Renauda said:

        @jon-nyc said:

        Well it’s clear the administration is negotiating with somebody there. Sounds like the people he’s talking to don’t have suppprt of some or all of the IRGC. If you recall he said he didn’t want to give a name so that the person didn’t get killed.

        It’s really hard to know what’s going on now.

        Maybe the Iranian equivalent to Rudolf Hess?

        Exactly.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          Whoever it is be rest assured Witkoff can vouch for him.

          Elbows up!

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            Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi: "The fact that they are now talking about negotiations is an admission of defeat; didn’t they claim unconditional surrender before?

            So why are they now mobilizing their top officials to negotiate?"

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            • MikM Away
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              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/what-did-iran-give-trump-he-called-the-gift-a-very-nice-thing/ar-AA1Zof3M?cvpid=125c35425ae547f88dd2b01f439bf94e

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                Interesting ‘pressure index’ created by Deutsche Bank doing a kind of technical analysis on the TACO trade.

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                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  c3d7825b-742f-4ec3-941d-2c06371264e3-image.jpeg

                  just a taste of what the day has been like, we've had about 7 missile alarms in the space of about two hours.

                  this pic, not far from my house, a couple was driving that car, there was an alarm and they parked and went into a nearby shelter, and u can see a direct hit of shrapnel thru the roof and the car went flying.

                  this makes a small little news item, "damage to car from shrapnel, no one injured"

                  its been a crazy day.

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                    Here’s the action shot. It’s an Arab village not far from my town.

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                      Saw that. Crazy how that car flipped around like a toy.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        Presented without comment.

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                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          A tortured view of NATO's purpose.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Trump isn't the only person who will "never forget".

                            I was only joking

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                              Is NATO even required to act if the "attack" is from a country (i.e., Iran) responding to an attack by a NATO member (i.e., USA)? And further, isn't Article 5 limited in that attacks in Asia and Africa don't count?

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                                We will never forget your refusal to give us help we don’t need in the war we already won.

                                The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  Hahahaha so well summarized.

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                                    If he wasn't teetotal I'd honestly be convinced he got shit-faced most afternoons.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      Is NATO even required to act if the "attack" is from a country (i.e., Iran) responding to an attack by a NATO member (i.e., USA)? And further, isn't Article 5 limited in that attacks in Asia and Africa don't count?

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                                      @89th Well, Turkey is actually more Asian than European (in square km).

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