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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • A Offline
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    AndyD
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    #886

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    Looks like part of the US to me

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #887

      He’s getting frustrated. But at the end of the day it will be really hard to declare victory if he can’t open the strait. Giving up without doing so will embolden the regime and change the calculus of our allies in the gulf and beyond.

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      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
        wrote last edited by Mik
        #888

        It's SO too late to pull the "allies" in. You break it...

        I'm not sure what they could really add to the picture that we can't anyway.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #889

          My understanding is raw numbers of ships for escorts. Something like 130 ships a day traverse the straight. Even in small convoys you need a lot of ships.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            He’s getting frustrated. But at the end of the day it will be really hard to declare victory if he can’t open the strait. Giving up without doing so will embolden the regime and change the calculus of our allies in the gulf and beyond.

            IMG_1109.jpeg

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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by Renauda
            #890

            @jon-nyc said:

            He’s getting frustrated. But at the end of the day it will be really hard to declare victory if he can’t open the strait. Giving up without doing so will embolden the regime and change the calculus of our allies in the gulf and beyond.

            IMG_1109.jpeg

            Seems to me, keeping “the Strait” open for safe passage is very much in the interests of several multinational American oil and gas producers. There are also both large and small US based O & G equipment manufacturers and service companies operating throughout the Persian Gulf which depend on those shipping lanes.

            The Gulf region supplies Asia with the bulk its sulphur and potash for fertiliser production. With the Strait closed, this driving to price of fertiliser up globally. Owing to this great uncertainty, the rising costs of diesel fuel and fertiliser will make 2026 to be an expensive year for US farmers to sow their fields. Those added expenses will be felt by virtually everyone in the US when they go to the grocery store. If there was no affordability crisis before this, there soon will be especially come autumn.

            So for Trump to say “we don’t” [use it] is wholly false.

            Elbows up!

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #891

              Yeah as I said before my fear (and, frankly, expectation) is that he’ll give up when the political price of continuing the war gets too high and just paint a bullseye around the current state of things, whatever they happen to be. This could end up being part of it.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
                wrote last edited by
                #892

                I still haven't heard much about the state of affairs in country. Seems like if there were uprisings, we'd be hearing about them long and loud.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  Renauda
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                  #893

                  I don’t think we will see Iranians take to the streets anytime soon. Between the bombs and the state organs of repression, they remain sufficiently cowed into passivity. That however could change very quickly and violently if it becomes difficult to find food.

                  Regardless, the longer the war goes on the more difficult it will be down the road for the West in general, the Israelis in particular and the US specifically, to win many Persian hearts and minds. Based on what I have been reading and hear, that between the US and Israelis, it is only the latter that fully grasps the importance of creating the necessary conditions as soon as possible to effect regime change from below. I don’t sense much savy in that regard coming out of the WH.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #894

                    Saw these together.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by Mik
                      #895

                      Guy's got a bad rug.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        jon-nyc
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                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          bachophile
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                          Former ambassador

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            So is this Iran accepting the ultimatum, but phrasing it as their own ultimatum to sound better?

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #899

                              I don’t know this guy, but he’s a macroeconomist who is followed by some respectable people and JD Vance.

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              • MikM Away
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                                Mik
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                                Jesus.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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