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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #891

    Yeah as I said before my fear (and, frankly, expectation) is that he’ll give up when the political price of continuing the war gets too high and just paint a bullseye around the current state of things, whatever they happen to be. This could end up being part of it.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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    • MikM Offline
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      #892

      I still haven't heard much about the state of affairs in country. Seems like if there were uprisings, we'd be hearing about them long and loud.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        #893

        I don’t think we will see Iranians take to the streets anytime soon. Between the bombs and the state organs of repression, they remain sufficiently cowed into passivity. That however could change very quickly and violently if it becomes difficult to find food.

        Regardless, the longer the war goes on the more difficult it will be down the road for the West in general, the Israelis in particular and the US specifically, to win many Persian hearts and minds. Based on what I have been reading and hear, that between the US and Israelis, it is only the latter that fully grasps the importance of creating the necessary conditions as soon as possible to effect regime change from below. I don’t sense much savy in that regard coming out of the WH.

        Elbows up!

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #894

          Saw these together.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
            wrote last edited by Mik
            #895

            Guy's got a bad rug.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
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              #896

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • bachophileB Online
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                bachophile
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                #897

                Former ambassador

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                • jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
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                  #898

                  So is this Iran accepting the ultimatum, but phrasing it as their own ultimatum to sound better?

                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #899

                    I don’t know this guy, but he’s a macroeconomist who is followed by some respectable people and JD Vance.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Jesus.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #901

                        Trying to figure out how much hyperbole there is in his concern.

                        On the one hand, Saudi and even Qatar are not dominant players in gas. On the other hand (I just learned from an Odd Lots podcast on the subject) NG is far more expensive to transport and the logistics are very sticky due to pipelines and long term contracts. It’s not as much as a ‘one global market’ as oil is.

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                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            My wife just said one of our Alexa clocks is off by 2 minutes. If that doesn’t mean the world is out of sync I don’t know what to say.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              So Yanbu is THE major Saudi export hub for oil that doesn’t rely on the strait. So yeah.

                              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                So basically, there will be even more stagflation than was expected, despite Trump's new Fed Chairbuddy, and gas prices going up another $2 per gallon soon. I suppose gold will go even higher?

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  Seems to me to be too early to say but that is certainly the risk.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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