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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Iran basically seeking our surrender. Unclear why Trump has the patience to go so many weeks when this is still their negotiating position. Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #1240

    @jon-nyc

    Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

    Via the good offices of the Kremlin and the FSB, the Iranians are passing negotiation points and concessions to Steve “Dim Philby” Witkoff during his nightly sleeps. Then the next day, Dim then passes them to Trump during breakfast or work hours or if it’s a weekend, at the golf course.

    Elbows up!

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      IN THE STRAIT of Hormuz, Iran has developed an asymmetrical naval strategy that is crippling the passage of container ships. This “hemostat” uses guerrilla tactics, after Iran's “traditional” fleet was almost entirely destroyed by US and Israeli attacks. No longer able to rely on specialized military ships, Tehran is using an unconventional force made up of dozens of small military vessels armed with missiles, machine guns, and drones. Quick and nimble, this “mosquito fleet” is capable of assaulting ships carrying tons of cargo.

      In mid-April, US president Donald Trump had reassured the public in a post on Truth Social that Iran's hemostat fleet did not pose a major problem for the US and Israel. “The Iranian Navy lies at the bottom of the sea, completely annihilated: 158 ships,” Trump wrote. “What we didn't hit are their small numbers of what they call ‘fast attack boats’ because we didn't consider them a big threat.” Less than 10 days later, on April 22, an Iranian attack conducted with the small vessels led to the seizure of two large container ships leaving the Strait of Hormuz, changing the course of the war.

      and

      “The effectiveness of Iran's fleet of small boats comes from their numbers and their use in swarms, which makes them difficult to counter,” Eisenstadt adds. “Iran has over a thousand of these small boats armed with rockets, machine guns, anti-ship missiles, and mines.” In this way, Tehran can pose a serious naval threat even though much of its military fleet has been destroyed.

      “As Iran showed in March, it can close the straits by launching only a few dozen drones against oil tankers and cargo ships in the Persian Gulf,

      https://www.wired.com/story/iran-is-using-tiny-mosquito-boats-to-shut-down-the-strait-of-hormuz/

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #1242

        Ugh, mosquitos.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #1243

          Oh joy.

          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            #1244

            We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Oh joy.

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              @jon-nyc

              If true, I wonder who he will blame? The Kurds? Nato? Zelenskyi? Obama?

              Am I missing someone?

              Elbows up!

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              • MikM Mik

                We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

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                @Mik said:

                We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

                Am sure the Ukrainians have an inexpensive app and hardware tailored just for that very purpose.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Offline
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                  I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • MikM Mik

                    I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

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                    #1248

                    @Mik said:

                    I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

                    They’re all armed though. There might be too many for an A10 to kill before it is killed. (Just speculating)

                    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                      #1249

                      I feel like we’ve seen this movie before.

                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                        #1250

                        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          I have no particular issue with more attacks, I’d just like to know what the specific goal is that would support.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Same song, different day.

                            United States President Donald Trump has announced he will postpone a “scheduled attack” against Iran at the request of regional leaders in the Middle East.

                            The reversal, he said, came in light of the fact that “serious negotiations are now taking place”.

                            “A Deal will be made, which will be very acceptable to the United States of America, as well as all Countries in the Middle East, and beyond,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social account.

                            It is unclear what, if any, breakthrough has been made in the stalled negotiations to end the conflict between the US, Israel and Iran.

                            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/18/trump-delays-scheduled-attack-on-iran-crediting-serious-negotiations

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                              alt text

                              There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                good because im off to italy tomorrow for the weekend. with any luck the war willl start when im away, the airspace will close again and ill be stuck there, eating pasta and pizza.

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                                  Enjoy!

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  • bachophileB bachophile

                                    good because im off to italy tomorrow for the weekend. with any luck the war willl start when im away, the airspace will close again and ill be stuck there, eating pasta and pizza.

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                                    @bachophile Have a great trip. If I may ask, what part of Italy will you be?

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      good because im off to italy tomorrow for the weekend. with any luck the war willl start when im away, the airspace will close again and ill be stuck there, eating pasta and pizza.

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                                      @bachophile said:

                                      good because im off to italy tomorrow for the weekend. with any luck the war willl start when im away, the airspace will close again and ill be stuck there, eating pasta and pizza.

                                      If you end up there for a while and get tired of pizza and pasta make your way to Sardinia and @nobodysock can make you a plate of tacos.

                                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @bachophile Have a great trip. If I may ask, what part of Italy will you be?

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                                        @taiwan_girl Milan area. Family visit. (This time Mrs Bach's family) Saturday we drive up to the mountains above Como for some scenery and a mountain meal. Return to the holy land on Monday evening.

                                        My father was also a Milanese. My whole father’s side are all wops. ( my mother was born in the USA already) They ran away from Poland back in WW I times (the Great War) and he was born in Turin although grew up in Milan. Long story short my father left Italy to go to pre nazi germany to Frankfurt to study but come the 1933 racial laws meant no Jews in university so he returned to Italy and then was smart enough to leave Italy when the racial laws there also took effect and ended up in London.

                                        Anyway because my father was forced to leave nazi germany in 1933, my kids (his grandchildren) are all legally eligible for German passports. So my kids are all soon to be tri nationals. Israel American and German citizens. (I could also but I never bothered to)

                                        Just some biographical tidbits which explains why we visit Italy often. I have lots of Italian cousins and relatives.

                                        And can understand some Italian although I can’t speak a word.

                                        And how all this ended up in the Iran nuclear thread is a mystery.

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                                          Or does this go in the Cuba thread?

                                          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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