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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #1234

    From Greg Brew:

    Imagine you are Iran's leadership. You fought the US to a draw. You control the Strait of Hormuz. Trump's advisors are telling reporters that he is desperate for a deal, unwilling to return to bombing, and eager to move on.

    Do you accept US demands on the nuclear program...or do you keep negotiating, in the hopes of securing an even better deal?

    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      taiwan_girl
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      #1235

      When this is all over, things will pretty much the way they were before this started. (Yes, there will be some talk on nuclear, but definitely Iran will have some sort of program, whether for civilian or military use.)

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
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        #1236

        Ran across this today. I need to buy three intraeuropean tickets and two US-EUR tickets for September and October.

        Good times!

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        There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #1237

          Interesting

          There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #1238

            There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
              #1239

              Iran basically seeking our surrender. Unclear why Trump has the patience to go so many weeks when this is still their negotiating position. Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

              There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Iran basically seeking our surrender. Unclear why Trump has the patience to go so many weeks when this is still their negotiating position. Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

                RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #1240

                @jon-nyc

                Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

                Via the good offices of the Kremlin and the FSB, the Iranians are passing negotiation points and concessions to Steve “Dim Philby” Witkoff during his nightly sleeps. Then the next day, Dim then passes them to Trump during breakfast or work hours or if it’s a weekend, at the golf course.

                Elbows up!

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                • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                  IN THE STRAIT of Hormuz, Iran has developed an asymmetrical naval strategy that is crippling the passage of container ships. This “hemostat” uses guerrilla tactics, after Iran's “traditional” fleet was almost entirely destroyed by US and Israeli attacks. No longer able to rely on specialized military ships, Tehran is using an unconventional force made up of dozens of small military vessels armed with missiles, machine guns, and drones. Quick and nimble, this “mosquito fleet” is capable of assaulting ships carrying tons of cargo.

                  In mid-April, US president Donald Trump had reassured the public in a post on Truth Social that Iran's hemostat fleet did not pose a major problem for the US and Israel. “The Iranian Navy lies at the bottom of the sea, completely annihilated: 158 ships,” Trump wrote. “What we didn't hit are their small numbers of what they call ‘fast attack boats’ because we didn't consider them a big threat.” Less than 10 days later, on April 22, an Iranian attack conducted with the small vessels led to the seizure of two large container ships leaving the Strait of Hormuz, changing the course of the war.

                  and

                  “The effectiveness of Iran's fleet of small boats comes from their numbers and their use in swarms, which makes them difficult to counter,” Eisenstadt adds. “Iran has over a thousand of these small boats armed with rockets, machine guns, anti-ship missiles, and mines.” In this way, Tehran can pose a serious naval threat even though much of its military fleet has been destroyed.

                  “As Iran showed in March, it can close the straits by launching only a few dozen drones against oil tankers and cargo ships in the Persian Gulf,

                  https://www.wired.com/story/iran-is-using-tiny-mosquito-boats-to-shut-down-the-strait-of-hormuz/

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    #1242

                    Ugh, mosquitos.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      #1243

                      Oh joy.

                      There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #1244

                        We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Oh joy.

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                          Renauda
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                          #1245

                          @jon-nyc

                          If true, I wonder who he will blame? The Kurds? Nato? Zelenskyi? Obama?

                          Am I missing someone?

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Mik

                            We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

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                            @Mik said:

                            We should be able to identify mosquito boats with drones and smash them.

                            Am sure the Ukrainians have an inexpensive app and hardware tailored just for that very purpose.

                            Elbows up!

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              • MikM Mik

                                I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

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                                #1248

                                @Mik said:

                                I suspect we could keep some planes surveilling the area in play. An A10 should handle little boats nicely.

                                They’re all armed though. There might be too many for an A10 to kill before it is killed. (Just speculating)

                                There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                  I feel like we’ve seen this movie before.

                                  There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                    There will be no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      #1251

                                      I have no particular issue with more attacks, I’d just like to know what the specific goal is that would support.

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                                        Same song, different day.

                                        United States President Donald Trump has announced he will postpone a “scheduled attack” against Iran at the request of regional leaders in the Middle East.

                                        The reversal, he said, came in light of the fact that “serious negotiations are now taking place”.

                                        “A Deal will be made, which will be very acceptable to the United States of America, as well as all Countries in the Middle East, and beyond,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social account.

                                        It is unclear what, if any, breakthrough has been made in the stalled negotiations to end the conflict between the US, Israel and Iran.

                                        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/5/18/trump-delays-scheduled-attack-on-iran-crediting-serious-negotiations

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