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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Offline
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    #1231

    I cannot help but wonder what would have happened had we attacked Iran's nuclear and military facilities in 2003 instead of invading Iraq. Hussein was a bad actor but was governed by self-interest. Not so the Iranian regime.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      The United States will launch an effort on Monday to “guide” stranded ships from the Iran-gripped Strait of Hormuz , President Donald Trump said, giving few details about what could be a sweeping effort to help hundreds of vessels and some 20,000 seafarers.

      Trump said in a social media post on Sunday that “neutral and innocent” countries have been affected by the Iran war , and “we have told these Countries that we will guide their Ships safely out of these restricted Waterways, so that they can freely and ably get on with their business.”

      “Project Freedom” would begin on Monday morning in the Middle East, Trump said, adding that his representatives are having discussions with Iran that could lead to something “very positive for all.”

      U.S. Central Command said the initiative would involve guided-missile destroyers, more than 100 aircraft and 15,000 service members. The Pentagon did not immediately answer questions about how they would be deployed.

      https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-war-ceasefire-negotiations-strait-454006a0a9bb19a45a2f299c0869cefb

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        https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-defies-trump-and-tightens-its-grip-on-hormuz-01a4e32b?mod=Searchresults&pos=1&page=1

        The U.S. and Iran are teetering on the brink of a dangerous new phase of the war, as both turn to military force to break a standoff in the Strait of Hormuz that has paralyzed shipping and imposed costs on both sides.

        Fighting flared for the first time in about a month Monday, with the U.S. Navy trying to open the waterway and Iran hitting commercial ships to keep it closed.

        The U.S. said it used Apache helicopters to sink Iranian speedboats harassing traffic in the strait. Iran hit a critical oil port in the United Arab Emirates and several vessels around the strategic waterway.

        The return to a more openly violent chapter will test both sides. Each has reason to try to force an end to the current paralysis in the strait. But they also face substantial risks if the skirmishing escalates out of control—for Iran, greater damage to its economy and leadership, and for President Trump, deeper involvement in a war that is unpopular at home.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          From Greg Brew:

          Imagine you are Iran's leadership. You fought the US to a draw. You control the Strait of Hormuz. Trump's advisors are telling reporters that he is desperate for a deal, unwilling to return to bombing, and eager to move on.

          Do you accept US demands on the nuclear program...or do you keep negotiating, in the hopes of securing an even better deal?

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            When this is all over, things will pretty much the way they were before this started. (Yes, there will be some talk on nuclear, but definitely Iran will have some sort of program, whether for civilian or military use.)

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              #1236

              Ran across this today. I need to buy three intraeuropean tickets and two US-EUR tickets for September and October.

              Good times!

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                Interesting

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  #1238

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    #1239

                    Iran basically seeking our surrender. Unclear why Trump has the patience to go so many weeks when this is still their negotiating position. Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Iran basically seeking our surrender. Unclear why Trump has the patience to go so many weeks when this is still their negotiating position. Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

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                      #1240

                      @jon-nyc

                      Maybe they have others whispering about possible concessions just enough to string him along.

                      Via the good offices of the Kremlin and the FSB, the Iranians are passing negotiation points and concessions to Steve “Dim Philby” Witkoff during his nightly sleeps. Then the next day, Dim then passes them to Trump during breakfast or work hours or if it’s a weekend, at the golf course.

                      Elbows up!

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