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  • 8 89th
    21 days ago

    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote 21 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
    #514

    @89th said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

    That being said, if we dropped 14 MOPs on the target, I'd have to imagine most of the internal infrastructure is a pile of collapsed rock now.

    It comes down to how deep/reinforced they were. Really the latter. The Iranians were aware of the (published) specs of the MOP and were trying to upgrade the concrete to that it couldn't go as deep. That would be one way the underground facility could have survived. Again, though, who knows?

    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      Mik
      wrote 21 days ago last edited by
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      Fordow is one thing, but it's also true they now know that Israel is quite capable, and willing given the incentive, to crush their defenses and economy at will.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        Mik
        wrote 21 days ago last edited by
        #516

        Good piece from Haaretz.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haaretz-explains-after-the-strikes-what-s-really-left-of-iran-s-nuclear-program/ar-AA1HpaaW

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          jon-nyc
          wrote 21 days ago last edited by
          #517

          That was very helpful

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            Mik
            wrote 21 days ago last edited by
            #518

            I thought so too.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote 21 days ago last edited by
              #519

              @Mik Yes, quite interesting and informative. Thanks for sharing.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                A contrarian take:

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote 20 days ago last edited by
                  #521

                  But Frum has a good point:

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    Horace
                    wrote 20 days ago last edited by
                    #522

                    If America and Israel just pretended to surrender to a retarded country, would it actually feel bad? Does letting a five year old win at checkers feel bad?

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      20 days ago

                      A contrarian take:

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote 20 days ago last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                      A contrarian take:

                      And Elon replied in that thread. 🤔

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote 20 days ago last edited by
                        #524

                        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8zv8j563po

                        Iranian authorities have carried out a wave of arrests and multiple executions of people suspected of links to Israeli intelligence agencies, in the wake of the recent war between the two countries.

                        It comes after what officials describe as an unprecedented infiltration of Iranian security services by Israeli agents.

                        Authorities suspect information fed to Israel played a part in a series of high-profile assassinations during the conflict. This included the targeted killings of senior commanders from the elite Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and nuclear scientists, which Iran attributes to operatives of Israel's Mossad intelligence agency working inside the country.

                        Shaken by the scale and precision of these killings, authorities have been targeting anyone suspected of working with foreign intelligence, saying it is for the sake of national security.

                        But many fear this is also a way to silence dissent and tighten control over the population.

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                          Mik
                          wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                          https://abcnews.go.com/International/iran-crackdown-deepens-speedy-executions-arrests/story?id=123253547

                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                            Im sure that it will take some time to know how much damage was done. I am not sure I would believe anything coming from the Iran officials right now.

                            The United States obtained intercepted communication between senior Iranian officials discussing this month’s U.S. military strikes on Iran’s nuclear program and remarking that the attack was less devastating than they had expected, said four people familiar with the classified intelligence circulating within the U.S. government.

                            The communication, intended to be private, included Iranian government officials speculating as to why the strikes directed by President Donald Trump were not as destructive and extensive as they had anticipated, these people said. Like some others, they spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/29/trump-iran-nuclear-damage-intercepted-call/

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                              Mik
                              wrote 17 days ago last edited by
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                              Nah. Nothing unconfirmed out of Tehran is credible on its face. But I would not be a bit surprised if it were true.

                              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote 11 days ago last edited by
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                                Could it be?

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 11 days ago last edited by
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                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote 10 days ago last edited by
                                    #530

                                    That would be one hell of an Independence Day present.

                                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote 10 days ago last edited by
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                                      https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/world/middleeast/ayatollah-khamenei-iran-israel.html

                                      "Khamenei Appears in Public for First Time Since Israel War Began"

                                      🤷

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote 5 days ago last edited by jon-nyc 7 Nov 2025, 12:05
                                        #532

                                        Open letter from Gallant to the Ayatollah

                                        https://generalyoavgallant.substack.com/p/a-letter-from-general-gallant-to?utm_campaign=posts-open-in-app&triedRedirect=true

                                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                          Tom-K
                                          wrote 5 days ago last edited by
                                          #533

                                          Damn, I hope General Gallant never writes me a letter.

                                          Flushing the toilet is like practicing the piano; you just cannot go too long without doing it.--Axtremus

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