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  • jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nycJ Online
    jon-nyc
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    #297

    Yeah I'm being flip when I say I don't care.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • A Online
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      AndyD
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      #298

      Alternatively ought we let Iran carry on, see them develop portable nuclear packs, which they will give to their proxy fanatical terrorist friends.

      When does this whole scenario become the invasion of Poland, the attack on Pearl Harbour for us?

      For the Israelis October 7th was that line.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #299

        The exact size of the military presence at the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant is not publicly known, but based on defense analyses and satellite imagery, experts estimate:

        ⸻

        🇮🇷 Estimated Military Presence at Fordow

        🔹 Permanent On-Site Security
        • Likely 200–400 IRGC personnel, including:
        • Facility guards
        • Technical security teams
        • Command staff and rapid response elements

        These forces are probably drawn from the IRGC Quds and Aerospace forces, with access tightly controlled.

        ⸻

        🔹 Perimeter & Area Security
        • Additional 500–1,000 troops may be stationed at nearby IRGC bases that provide regional security for Fordow and Qom
        • Likely include:
        • Motorized infantry
        • Air defense crews
        • Logistics and support units

        ⸻

        🔹 Air Defense Units
        • Fordow is protected by dedicated air defense batteries:
        • S-300PMU-2 system (mobile or semi-permanent)
        • Iranian equivalents (e.g., Bavar-373, Khordad-15)
        • These systems require dozens to hundreds of personnel to operate, maintain, and coordinate radar and missile systems

        ⸻

        🔹 Total Military Footprint (Broad Estimate)
        Component
        Estimated Personnel
        On-site security: 200–400
        Regional IRGC presence: 500–1,000
        Air defense teams: 100–300
        Total: 800–1,700 (approx.)

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nycJ Online
          jon-nyc
          wrote last edited by
          #300

          Whatever the normal staffing I’d imagine it’s a lot more this week.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #301

            I'm surprised they haven't opened a day care and a hospital on the ground floor.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • bachophileB Online
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              bachophile
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              #302

              Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

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              • jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nycJ Online
                jon-nyc
                wrote last edited by
                #303

                I was thinking this morning that it was weird that the WH leaked that there was going to be a statement from Trump last night, but ultimately there wasn't.

                But then I remembered yesterday was Tuesday....

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • bachophileB bachophile

                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nycJ Online
                  jon-nyc
                  wrote last edited by
                  #304

                  @bachophile said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  Negotiaters? Defectors? VIPs looking for a safe quiet weekend?

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nycJ Online
                    jon-nyc
                    wrote last edited by
                    #305

                    I just hope they weren't carrying weapons-grade uranium.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote last edited by
                      #306

                      Yes. That's the nightmare. And consistent with Iran's recent rhetoric.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • bachophileB Online
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                        bachophile
                        wrote last edited by
                        #307

                        Alert from home front. Incoming….

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by
                          #308

                          Luke Skywalker to the rescue?

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #309

                            Hey @bachophile - what do you do if you’re in surgery and one of these alerts comes in? Just hope for the best?

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • bachophileB Online
                              bachophileB Online
                              bachophile
                              wrote last edited by
                              #310

                              Intercepted. Definitely see much less missiles since the first two nights. I guess the hunting expeditions are working.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote last edited by
                                #311

                                Fewer.

                                /AquaLetifer

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Hey @bachophile - what do you do if you’re in surgery and one of these alerts comes in? Just hope for the best?

                                  bachophileB Online
                                  bachophileB Online
                                  bachophile
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #312

                                  @jon-nyc great question

                                  My hospital (Sheba ) has 10 ORs underground for emergencies. So we just keep on working. Sometimes we don’t even know there are alerts until they are over.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    Fewer.

                                    /AquaLetifer

                                    bachophileB Online
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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #313

                                    @jon-nyc yup. My grammar sucks.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #314

                                      By the way I met a young lady at your hospital recently. Can’t remember if it was AASLD, ERS, or ATS. She knew who you were though hadn’t met you.

                                      When I asked if she knew you she said ‘of course I know who he is’.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • bachophileB Online
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                                        bachophile
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                                        #315

                                        https://sheba-global.com/sheba-respond-to-emergency-underground-hospital/

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                                        • RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                                          #316

                                          A worsening of this is what will bring regime change to Iran. We will know for certain when the women hit the streets en masse in protest because their kids are crying from hunger:

                                          One contributor from Karaj, a city just outside of Tehran, says: "Yesterday, I went to a supermarket to buy fruit and found almost empty shelves.

                                          https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx23e4jz2g0t?post=asset%3Ad8dab1e5-53f4-41c9-a148-e471414bd321#post

                                          Elbows up!

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