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The Epstein File

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #380

    English solidarity 😁

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • MikM Mik

      English solidarity 😁

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #381

      @Mik said in The Epstein File:

      English solidarity 😁

      To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Mik said in The Epstein File:

        English solidarity 😁

        To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

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        Renauda
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        #382

        @Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:

        @Mik said in The Epstein File:

        English solidarity 😁

        To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

        Elbows up!

        Elbows up!

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          Horace
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          #383

          Former Obama white house counsel and current top lawyer for Goldman Sachs resigns over having her personal friendship with Epstein revealed in the latest document dump.

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kathy-ruemmler-top-goldman-sachs-lawyer-resigning-amid-epstein-fallout/ar-AA1WftJE?ocid=BingNewsSerp

          I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery. Just this once, they'll relax that demand.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            Former Obama white house counsel and current top lawyer for Goldman Sachs resigns over having her personal friendship with Epstein revealed in the latest document dump.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kathy-ruemmler-top-goldman-sachs-lawyer-resigning-amid-epstein-fallout/ar-AA1WftJE?ocid=BingNewsSerp

            I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery. Just this once, they'll relax that demand.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #384

            @Horace said in The Epstein File:

            I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery.

            I rather doubt that Nutlick got involved with the debauchery, however he clearly lied about his relationship with a convicted sex-offender.

            Peter Mandelson has lost his job over this, as has Andrew Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

            Why has nothing happened to any of Trump's little group of ne'er-do-wells?

            I was only joking

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              AndyD
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              #385

              I freely admit to a strong dislike of the man, a convicted criminal and man who thinks mostly of what he can do for himself in the short term at the expense of many others and any consideration for the long term.

              It's not that I'm a left winger, Tony Blair is top of my list of disliked PM politicians, along with Cameron. I liked Boris though he was rubbish.

              It's not just whether you like or dislike a politician. It's what they do. Trump is an awful man and an awful political representative.
              Though I am pleased he supported Israel, pretty much everything else make my eyes roll.

              We need to make a list of all the good things he's done for the US in the last year:

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                AndyD
                wrote last edited by AndyD
                #386

                As for the E files, only the young girls' names ought to have been redacted.

                Epstein was a smiling monster, grooming, promising, moving, threatening, using young girls.
                It's traumatic for them to recall their youthful past.

                As for Maxwell withholding testimony to bargain, well, for the hurt she has knowingly inflicted on so many, I'd give her life imprisonment without appeal, until and unless she fully confesses everything and gives full details.
                Only then reconsider her sentence length when she has proven some repentance.

                It's all going to drag on for years, while various people resign and Trump doesn't, even as we wonder just how friendly Epstein was with the Russians.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #387

                  OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.

                  Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....

                  image.png

                  I was only joking

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.

                    Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....

                    image.png

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                    #388

                    @Doctor-Phibes

                    The fuck is wrong with you. You are so deranged, D’Oh.

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      AndyD
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                      #389

                      Trump makes our TV soaps seem dull.
                      You couldn't write this stuff...

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        #390

                        But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote last edited by
                          #391

                          The Dow. lol. He’s so fucking old.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
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                            This too will pass. one way or another. Trump, I mean.

                            The only things we have really learned from the Epstein debacle is that he and his guests did not spend all their time in debauchery and prosecuting them would be damn difficult.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              I recall a time not so long ago either, when the Trump tribe demanded the files be made public in order to prove that Epstein’s alleged suicide was, in fact, a mob style hit. The third party behind said hit being of course, “the Clintons” and presumably others in the sinister DNC.

                              We have now learned that that suspicion was nothing but coffee and doughnut shop gossip. A malicious conspiracy theory.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.

                                I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.

                                  I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
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                                  @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                  But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                                  You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                                  IMG_0372.jpeg

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                    But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                                    You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                                    IMG_0372.jpeg

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote last edited by Horace
                                    #396

                                    @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                    @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                    But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                                    You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                                    IMG_0372.jpeg

                                    It was an obvious political move, and it helped get them into power. There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files. I doubt Kash Patel or Pam Bondi were intimately familiar with what was in the files before they were installed in their positions. Doesn't seem to be much mysterious about any of this. Except the pizza and jerky. I also keep in mind that claiming to be an Epstein victim is big business, and those claimants have become rich, on sometimes very weak evidence. They have not named any names, for whatever reason. Except Guiffre, who is particularly unreliable. (I believe the stories about the ex-prince, but I find the Dershowitz allegations less convincing.)

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                      @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                                      But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                                      You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                                      IMG_0372.jpeg

                                      It was an obvious political move, and it helped get them into power. There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files. I doubt Kash Patel or Pam Bondi were intimately familiar with what was in the files before they were installed in their positions. Doesn't seem to be much mysterious about any of this. Except the pizza and jerky. I also keep in mind that claiming to be an Epstein victim is big business, and those claimants have become rich, on sometimes very weak evidence. They have not named any names, for whatever reason. Except Guiffre, who is particularly unreliable. (I believe the stories about the ex-prince, but I find the Dershowitz allegations less convincing.)

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote last edited by Renauda
                                      #397

                                      @Horace

                                      There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files.

                                      “may even have been hopeful intentions…”??

                                      Surely you jest.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #398

                                        @89th said in The Epstein File:

                                        But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

                                        https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AwxDnvsSk/?mibextid=wwXIfr

                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          said in The Epstein File:

                                          Wow. Does he thing he’s helping Trump????

                                          It’s not the headline above but in the video Lutnick says he and Epstein were a ‘one and done’. He says he met him once and immediately recognized this guy was a pervert and stayed away.

                                          Files say differently.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          said in The Epstein File:

                                          It’s not the headline above but in the video Lutnick says he and Epstein were a ‘one and done’. He says he met him once and immediately recognized this guy was a pervert and stayed away.

                                          Files say differently.

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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