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The Epstein File

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  • A Offline
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    AndyD
    wrote on last edited by AndyD
    #386

    As for the E files, only the young girls' names ought to have been redacted.

    Epstein was a smiling monster, grooming, promising, moving, threatening, using young girls.
    It's traumatic for them to recall their youthful past.

    As for Maxwell withholding testimony to bargain, well, for the hurt she has knowingly inflicted on so many, I'd give her life imprisonment without appeal, until and unless she fully confesses everything and gives full details.
    Only then reconsider her sentence length when she has proven some repentance.

    It's all going to drag on for years, while various people resign and Trump doesn't, even as we wonder just how friendly Epstein was with the Russians.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Online
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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on last edited by
      #387

      OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.

      Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....

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      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.

        Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #388

        @Doctor-Phibes

        The fuck is wrong with you. You are so deranged, D’Oh.

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • A Offline
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          AndyD
          wrote on last edited by
          #389

          Trump makes our TV soaps seem dull.
          You couldn't write this stuff...

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #390

            But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #391

              The Dow. lol. He’s so fucking old.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • MikM Away
                MikM Away
                Mik
                wrote on last edited by
                #392

                This too will pass. one way or another. Trump, I mean.

                The only things we have really learned from the Epstein debacle is that he and his guests did not spend all their time in debauchery and prosecuting them would be damn difficult.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #393

                  I recall a time not so long ago either, when the Trump tribe demanded the files be made public in order to prove that Epstein’s alleged suicide was, in fact, a mob style hit. The third party behind said hit being of course, “the Clintons” and presumably others in the sinister DNC.

                  We have now learned that that suspicion was nothing but coffee and doughnut shop gossip. A malicious conspiracy theory.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #394

                    Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.

                    I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.

                      I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.

                      jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #395

                      @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                      But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                      You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                      IMG_0372.jpeg

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                        But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                        You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                        IMG_0372.jpeg

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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by Horace
                        #396

                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                        @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                        But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                        You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                        IMG_0372.jpeg

                        It was an obvious political move, and it helped get them into power. There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files. I doubt Kash Patel or Pam Bondi were intimately familiar with what was in the files before they were installed in their positions. Doesn't seem to be much mysterious about any of this. Except the pizza and jerky. I also keep in mind that claiming to be an Epstein victim is big business, and those claimants have become rich, on sometimes very weak evidence. They have not named any names, for whatever reason. Except Guiffre, who is particularly unreliable. (I believe the stories about the ex-prince, but I find the Dershowitz allegations less convincing.)

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                          @Horace said in The Epstein File:

                          But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.

                          You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:

                          IMG_0372.jpeg

                          It was an obvious political move, and it helped get them into power. There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files. I doubt Kash Patel or Pam Bondi were intimately familiar with what was in the files before they were installed in their positions. Doesn't seem to be much mysterious about any of this. Except the pizza and jerky. I also keep in mind that claiming to be an Epstein victim is big business, and those claimants have become rich, on sometimes very weak evidence. They have not named any names, for whatever reason. Except Guiffre, who is particularly unreliable. (I believe the stories about the ex-prince, but I find the Dershowitz allegations less convincing.)

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by Renauda
                          #397

                          @Horace

                          There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files.

                          “may even have been hopeful intentions…”??

                          Surely you jest.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

                            jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #398

                            @89th said in The Epstein File:

                            But the Dow is up 50,000 dollars!

                            https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AwxDnvsSk/?mibextid=wwXIfr

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              said in The Epstein File:

                              Wow. Does he thing he’s helping Trump????

                              It’s not the headline above but in the video Lutnick says he and Epstein were a ‘one and done’. He says he met him once and immediately recognized this guy was a pervert and stayed away.

                              Files say differently.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote last edited by
                              #399

                              said in The Epstein File:

                              It’s not the headline above but in the video Lutnick says he and Epstein were a ‘one and done’. He says he met him once and immediately recognized this guy was a pervert and stayed away.

                              Files say differently.

                              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote last edited by
                                #400

                                Now that President Clinton and Sec. Clinton (who I don't think was ever mentioned in the files) have testified, do you think that the commission will call on President Trump and his wife to testify also?🤔

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #401

                                  No but I’m sure come 2029 the house will appreciate the precedent having been set.

                                  Melania better start practicing her English.

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    89th
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #402

                                    Wait, you don't think "sorry no english" isn't an acceptable response to each question?

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      No but I’m sure come 2029 the house will appreciate the precedent having been set.

                                      Melania better start practicing her English.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #403

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                      No but I’m sure come 2029 the house will appreciate the precedent having been set.

                                      Maybe even 2027..................

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nycJ Online
                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #404

                                        A democratic house in 2027 is a certainty, barring some sort of election fraud by Trump. But he'll still be a sitting president so it'll have to wait until 29, assuming he lives that long.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                          taiwan_girl
                                          wrote last edited by taiwan_girl
                                          #405

                                          Video of the appearances of President Clinton and Sec. Clinton. If you have 9 hours to kill, you can watch them both.

                                          https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-bill-and-hillary-clinton-deposition-videos/

                                          Former President Bill Clinton told lawmakers that President Donald Trump told him he had "some great ​times" with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein before their relationship soured, according to a video released on Monday.

                                          In a videotaped deposition ‌to the House of Representatives Oversight Committee, the former Democratic president said under oath that Trump brought up Epstein at a golf tournament in 2002 or 2003, after Clinton left office and more than a decade before Trump was elected president.

                                          "Somehow he knew I had flown in Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft," Clinton told the committee. "He said, 'You ​know, we had some great times together over the years, but we fell out all because of a real estate deal.'"

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