The Epstein File

[Mik]

I have no issue until that emotional kneejerk reaction causes one to spout demonstrably false mythical talking points. As I said, there's plenty to criticize, but nothing is as black and white as one side would have you believe.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The Epstein File:

You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

Maybe we're not the actual problem here.

I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a little tired of being told that I'm the one who's deranged, when it's quite clear where most of the derangement lies.

[Mik]

English solidarity

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The Epstein File:

English solidarity

To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

[Renauda]

@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:

@Mik said in The Epstein File:

English solidarity

To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

Elbows up!

[Horace]

Former Obama white house counsel and current top lawyer for Goldman Sachs resigns over having her personal friendship with Epstein revealed in the latest document dump.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kathy-ruemmler-top-goldman-sachs-lawyer-resigning-amid-epstein-fallout/ar-AA1WftJE?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery. Just this once, they'll relax that demand.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said in The Epstein File:

I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery.

I rather doubt that Nutlick got involved with the debauchery, however he clearly lied about his relationship with a convicted sex-offender.

Peter Mandelson has lost his job over this, as has Andrew Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.

Why has nothing happened to any of Trump's little group of ne'er-do-wells?

[AndyD]

I freely admit to a strong dislike of the man, a convicted criminal and man who thinks mostly of what he can do for himself in the short term at the expense of many others and any consideration for the long term.

It's not that I'm a left winger, Tony Blair is top of my list of disliked PM politicians, along with Cameron. I liked Boris though he was rubbish.

It's not just whether you like or dislike a politician. It's what they do. Trump is an awful man and an awful political representative.
Though I am pleased he supported Israel, pretty much everything else make my eyes roll.

We need to make a list of all the good things he's done for the US in the last year:

[AndyD]

As for the E files, only the young girls' names ought to have been redacted.

Epstein was a smiling monster, grooming, promising, moving, threatening, using young girls.
It's traumatic for them to recall their youthful past.

As for Maxwell withholding testimony to bargain, well, for the hurt she has knowingly inflicted on so many, I'd give her life imprisonment without appeal, until and unless she fully confesses everything and gives full details.
Only then reconsider her sentence length when she has proven some repentance.

It's all going to drag on for years, while various people resign and Trump doesn't, even as we wonder just how friendly Epstein was with the Russians.

[Doctor Phibes]

OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.

Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....

[jon-nyc]

@Doctor-Phibes

The fuck is wrong with you. You are so deranged, D’Oh.

[AndyD]

Trump makes our TV soaps seem dull.
You couldn't write this stuff...