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The Epstein File

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  • MikM Away
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    Mik
    wrote last edited by Mik
    #373

    I have no issue with criticizing Trump. I do lots of it myself. But repeating nonsense like he paid Stormy Daniels more than taxes is provably untrue. He banned Epstein from his club prior to his arrest and Epstein socialized with pretty much everyone in higher society. The criminal fraud conviction was a fraud in itself.

    Don't let your hatred of the man distort your viewpoint. It cheapens your argument.

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      #374

      Oh come on Mik, it's recorded he paid Stormy$130k.
      The NYTimes recorded how much tax he paid over years.

      It's laughable what he gets away with. The couple claimed $70k and $100k in a year for their hairdressing as business expenses. Tip of iceberg when you read about his business dealings
      Ultimately you pay towards his fraud.

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      • MikM Away
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        #375

        The Times cherry picked the years they wanted to. In 2005 he paid $38 million in income taxes. In some years he paid no income tax, but he paid lots in property and other taxes. your assertion is cherry-picked and ludicrous. You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          Horace
          wrote last edited by
          #376

          To think that Trump is special amongst wealthy people in legally paying as little in tax as possible, is probably not reality. One can dunk on Trump as being especially egregious for some things, but finding legal ways to reduce taxes isn't one of them.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Mik

            The Times cherry picked the years they wanted to. In 2005 he paid $38 million in income taxes. In some years he paid no income tax, but he paid lots in property and other taxes. your assertion is cherry-picked and ludicrous. You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by Renauda
            #377

            @Mik

            You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

            Indeed Andy is not alone in that.

            While Americans can love, like, dislike or hate Trump in various degrees their view is tempered one way or another by the US Constitution and his role in elected office as President. On the other hand those of us, like Andy and I, on the outside of the US who have been collectively and adversely affected by his policies, whose country has been maligned by his bald face lies and threats we all hate or loathe him untempered and in ways peculiar to our individual national identities. We believe him to be a disgrace in every manner. Quite unfit for the responsibility and authority the Constitution gives him to perform his duties of office.

            Elbows up!

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
              wrote last edited by
              #378

              I have no issue until that emotional kneejerk reaction causes one to spout demonstrably false mythical talking points. As I said, there's plenty to criticize, but nothing is as black and white as one side would have you believe.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Mik

                The Times cherry picked the years they wanted to. In 2005 he paid $38 million in income taxes. In some years he paid no income tax, but he paid lots in property and other taxes. your assertion is cherry-picked and ludicrous. You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote last edited by
                #379

                @Mik said in The Epstein File:

                You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.

                Maybe we're not the actual problem here.

                I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a little tired of being told that I'm the one who's deranged, when it's quite clear where most of the derangement lies.

                I was only joking

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                • MikM Away
                  MikM Away
                  Mik
                  wrote last edited by
                  #380

                  English solidarity 😁

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • MikM Mik

                    English solidarity 😁

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #381

                    @Mik said in The Epstein File:

                    English solidarity 😁

                    To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Mik said in The Epstein File:

                      English solidarity 😁

                      To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

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                      #382

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:

                      @Mik said in The Epstein File:

                      English solidarity 😁

                      To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.

                      Elbows up!

                      Elbows up!

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