The Epstein File
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The Times cherry picked the years they wanted to. In 2005 he paid $38 million in income taxes. In some years he paid no income tax, but he paid lots in property and other taxes. your assertion is cherry-picked and ludicrous. You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.
You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.
Indeed Andy is not alone in that.
While Americans can love, like, dislike or hate Trump in various degrees their view is tempered one way or another by the US Constitution and his role in elected office as President. On the other hand those of us, like Andy and I, on the outside of the US who have been collectively and adversely affected by his policies, whose country has been maligned by his bald face lies and threats we all hate or loathe him untempered and in ways peculiar to our individual national identities. We believe him to be a disgrace in every manner. Quite unfit for the responsibility and authority the Constitution gives him to perform his duties of office.
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The Times cherry picked the years they wanted to. In 2005 he paid $38 million in income taxes. In some years he paid no income tax, but he paid lots in property and other taxes. your assertion is cherry-picked and ludicrous. You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.
@Mik said in The Epstein File:
You are blinded by hate. But then you're not alone in that.
Maybe we're not the actual problem here.
I'm sure I'm not the only one getting a little tired of being told that I'm the one who's deranged, when it's quite clear where most of the derangement lies.
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@Mik said in The Epstein File:
English solidarity
To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.
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@Mik said in The Epstein File:
English solidarity
To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.
@Doctor-Phibes said in The Epstein File:
@Mik said in The Epstein File:
English solidarity
To be honest, my Canadian citizenship is considerably more appealing at this stage, based on what's going on across the pond.
Elbows up!
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Former Obama white house counsel and current top lawyer for Goldman Sachs resigns over having her personal friendship with Epstein revealed in the latest document dump.
I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery. Just this once, they'll relax that demand.
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Former Obama white house counsel and current top lawyer for Goldman Sachs resigns over having her personal friendship with Epstein revealed in the latest document dump.
I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery. Just this once, they'll relax that demand.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
I guess the usual suspects may relax their non-disprovable demands that everybody who had such close association with him must also have participated in the debauchery.
I rather doubt that Nutlick got involved with the debauchery, however he clearly lied about his relationship with a convicted sex-offender.
Peter Mandelson has lost his job over this, as has Andrew Saxe-Coburg-Gotha.
Why has nothing happened to any of Trump's little group of ne'er-do-wells?
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I freely admit to a strong dislike of the man, a convicted criminal and man who thinks mostly of what he can do for himself in the short term at the expense of many others and any consideration for the long term.
It's not that I'm a left winger, Tony Blair is top of my list of disliked PM politicians, along with Cameron. I liked Boris though he was rubbish.
It's not just whether you like or dislike a politician. It's what they do. Trump is an awful man and an awful political representative.
Though I am pleased he supported Israel, pretty much everything else make my eyes roll.We need to make a list of all the good things he's done for the US in the last year:
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As for the E files, only the young girls' names ought to have been redacted.
Epstein was a smiling monster, grooming, promising, moving, threatening, using young girls.
It's traumatic for them to recall their youthful past.As for Maxwell withholding testimony to bargain, well, for the hurt she has knowingly inflicted on so many, I'd give her life imprisonment without appeal, until and unless she fully confesses everything and gives full details.
Only then reconsider her sentence length when she has proven some repentance.It's all going to drag on for years, while various people resign and Trump doesn't, even as we wonder just how friendly Epstein was with the Russians.
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OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.
Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....
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OK, this is getting crazy. I'd like to bring a bit of sanity back to the discussion.
Here you go, and thank you for your attention to this matter....
The fuck is wrong with you. You are so deranged, D’Oh.
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I recall a time not so long ago either, when the Trump tribe demanded the files be made public in order to prove that Epstein’s alleged suicide was, in fact, a mob style hit. The third party behind said hit being of course, “the Clintons” and presumably others in the sinister DNC.
We have now learned that that suspicion was nothing but coffee and doughnut shop gossip. A malicious conspiracy theory.
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Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.
I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.
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Can't speak for anybody else, but I've never been a Epstein files hawk. I continue to believe that if there was a there there, it would have been capitalized on, through official legal channels or otherwise, in the Biden administration. But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions. While those redactions missed Lutnick, a chief right hand man. Non-disprovable theories satisfying confirmation bias are so much fun.
I would like to know what they're talking about with all the references to pizza and jerky though. I don't guess the answer lies within the files.
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.
You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:
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@Horace said in The Epstein File:
But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.
You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
@Horace said in The Epstein File:
But now that the Trump administration is at the helm, it's all about the coverup and the redactions.
You make it sound like this was all a big TDS-fueled initiative. Trump and his circle did this to themselves by obsessing about it for years and promising the full reveal. This was less than a year ago after all:
It was an obvious political move, and it helped get them into power. There may even have been hopeful intentions behind it, that there would be juicy, politically useful stuff to prosecute or at least publicize in the files. I doubt Kash Patel or Pam Bondi were intimately familiar with what was in the files before they were installed in their positions. Doesn't seem to be much mysterious about any of this. Except the pizza and jerky. I also keep in mind that claiming to be an Epstein victim is big business, and those claimants have become rich, on sometimes very weak evidence. They have not named any names, for whatever reason. Except Guiffre, who is particularly unreliable. (I believe the stories about the ex-prince, but I find the Dershowitz allegations less convincing.)
