Department of Education
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wrote on 6 Feb 2025, 17:59 last edited by
Big whoop.
Overall, it's about 10%. Keep the money in block grants, kill a lot of the rules which result in an army of paper shufflers at the local and state level, set some national goals and get out of the way.
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Big whoop.
Overall, it's about 10%. Keep the money in block grants, kill a lot of the rules which result in an army of paper shufflers at the local and state level, set some national goals and get out of the way.
wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 02:22 last edited by@Jolly I dont disagree, but I dont know enough about that department to make any intelligent comments. (but I guess that has never stop me before 5555)
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@Jolly I dont disagree, but I dont know enough about that department to make any intelligent comments. (but I guess that has never stop me before 5555)
wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 10:32 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Department of Education:
@Jolly I dont disagree, but I dont know enough about that department to make any intelligent comments. (but I guess that has never stop
meanybody on the forum before 5555)FIFY
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@taiwan_girl said in Department of Education:
@Jolly I dont disagree, but I dont know enough about that department to make any intelligent comments. (but I guess that has never stop
meanybody on the forum before 5555)FIFY
wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 15:38 last edited by -
Big whoop.
Overall, it's about 10%. Keep the money in block grants, kill a lot of the rules which result in an army of paper shufflers at the local and state level, set some national goals and get out of the way.
wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 15:58 last edited by@Jolly said in Department of Education:
Big whoop.
Overall, it's about 10%. Keep the money in block grants, kill a lot of the rules which result in an army of paper shufflers at the local and state level, set some national goals and get out of the way.
Completely agree. Get the federal tentacles out of the schools. Federal money is very much like the pusher giving you enough free dope to get you addicted. then the price goes up.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:13 last edited by
Here’s the deal. You want education to improve? Have 50 departments trying different things rather than 1 dictating for everybody.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:18 last edited by
Im no expert but I think they backed off national standards. That was a W thing.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:39 last edited by
No Child Left Behind.
Sadly, some children aren't of normal intelligence. Inclusion slows things down.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:51 last edited by
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No Child Left Behind.
Sadly, some children aren't of normal intelligence. Inclusion slows things down.
wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 21:02 last edited by@Jolly said in Department of Education:
No Child Left Behind.
Sadly, some children aren't of normal intelligence. Inclusion slows things down.
At least around here, I believe it led to a number of kids getting designated as being special needs. Whether it was 'developmental delays' or thrown under the 'autism spectrum' umbrella, it was a way for school systems to not get penalized for having kids not hitting certain achievements.
So a kid who was borderline could end up spending half (or more) of his day in a room with students who were non-verbal. Instead of that kid getting the work needed to catch up to peers--they'd now have their own IEP, that would frequently take them down a few notches from their potential. Unless there were a couple very involved parents.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 21:10 last edited by
At this point I'm not sure Trump knows exactly what he will do.
It's not like he's running for reelection...
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 21:13 last edited by jon-nyc 24 days ago
The Department of Education does not run a single school. It does not employ any teachers in a single classroom. It doesn’t set academic standards or curriculum. It isn’t even the primary funder of education—quite the opposite. In most states, the federal government represents less than 10 percent of K–12 public education funding.
So what does it do? It shuffles money around; adds unnecessary requirements and political agendas via its grants; and then passes the buck when it comes time to assess if any of that adds value.
Trump will add unnecessary requirements reflecting a different political agenda would be my guess.
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wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 22:22 last edited by
Maybe. Maybe not.
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 14:20 last edited by
Looks like the department's closure is imminent. What's funny is how common the search right now "what does the Dept of Education actually do?", which should tell you something about the department...
Maybe the government should just be involved in facilitating an annual "state education department" conference where states share what is working well, compare scores, and provide advice for other states with new ideas.
I also hope special needs students aren't hurt (maybe they are helped?) by this. Sure would be nice if Trump signed an EO specifically to support Americans with special needs... medicine (Medicaid), housing, and education. Obviously I'm biased because of my sister, but they are some of the most vulnerable citizens who through no fault of their own or their parents (most of the time) were dealt a really bad hand at life.
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:25 last edited by
has anyone given thought to what is said on the streets as to why Republicans want to abolish the DOE? To keep the American public less educated and more prone to believe the constant propaganda that they receive everyday?
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wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:36 last edited by
The best one can expect from federally controlled education is a uniform mediocrity. Excellence stems from smaller organizations being able to innovate without the constraining tentacles of federal and often state money. Shut the DOE down.
"The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil
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has anyone given thought to what is said on the streets as to why Republicans want to abolish the DOE? To keep the American public less educated and more prone to believe the constant propaganda that they receive everyday?
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:37 last edited by@NobodySock said in Department of Education:
has anyone given thought to what is said on the streets as to why Republicans want to abolish the DOE? To keep the American public less educated and more prone to believe the constant propaganda that they receive everyday?
word on the street is that formal education is dominated by purveyors of progressive propaganda and bad educational ideas in general. Word on the street is that the word on the street has more than a grain of truth to it.
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The best one can expect from federally controlled education is a uniform mediocrity. Excellence stems from smaller organizations being able to innovate without the constraining tentacles of federal and often state money. Shut the DOE down.
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:50 last edited by@Mik said in Department of Education:
The best one can expect from federally controlled education is a uniform mediocrity.
From what little I know, the DOE does not set any standards or set any guidelines for schools. The states (and US schools) are still the ones that set acheivement tests, etc. They mainly distribute federal money. I may be wrong on that.
Based on that, I could see the money distribution being done by a department within another organization.
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@NobodySock said in Department of Education:
has anyone given thought to what is said on the streets as to why Republicans want to abolish the DOE? To keep the American public less educated and more prone to believe the constant propaganda that they receive everyday?
word on the street is that formal education is dominated by purveyors of progressive propaganda and bad educational ideas in general. Word on the street is that the word on the street has more than a grain of truth to it.
wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:53 last edited by@Horace said in Department of Education:
@NobodySock said in Department of Education:
has anyone given thought to what is said on the streets as to why Republicans want to abolish the DOE? To keep the American public less educated and more prone to believe the constant propaganda that they receive everyday?
word on the street is that formal education is dominated by purveyors of progressive propaganda and bad educational ideas in general. Word on the street is that the word on the street has more than a grain of truth to it.
Lol! Word!
