Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 18:46 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it though events may force his hand. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
As I mentioned in another thread. Trump has no compunction against pivoting and moving to a more market friendly position if he sees the tide turning against him…
He lacks the courage of his convictions at times. Feel free to make all the jokes that you would like out of that.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 18:47 last edited by kluurs 2 Feb 2025, 18:48@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 18:49 last edited by@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline... This Presidency, he can nuke the hurricanes with no one stopping him.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 18:49 last edited by@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...
His winning margin wasn't from the faithful, it was from swing voters who voted for a better economy. Maga is toast if this stuff all backfires in ways they feel.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 18:50 last edited by
Swing folks are already scared.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.
Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:00 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 19:14Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal.
Autarky. An interesting and, for me at least, a disconcerting thought. The US would need unfettered sovereign access to a multitude of natural resources including fresh water to attain that goal.
Contrary to what John Bolton has said that Trump is incapable of a grand strategy, I cannot entirely rule out that a malevolent and imperialist design is what motivates Trump’s thinking.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:22 last edited by@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
So, Trump is responsible for keeping USPS costs down?
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Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?
It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?
It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.
And some people wonder why other people would ever desire their head on a pike.
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:31 last edited by@kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?
I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.
How many jobs did that create? Isn’t that a net win?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:42 last edited by
@blondie said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.
They were right?
https://nypost.com/2025/02/02/us-news/shopify-ceo-defends-trump-tariff-demands-slams-trudeau/
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:43 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 19:46
I see the resident Foghorn of Continual Distractions is trying to enter what is otherwise an adult discussion and gain undeserved attention.
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:45 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 19:45
“These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."
Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?
Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?
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“These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."
Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?
Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:54 last edited by
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:58 last edited by
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?
No the Canadian CEO of Spotify
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:58 last edited by
A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:59 last edited by
Yeah but Canada’s paying the difference, eh?
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@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?
No the Canadian CEO of Spotify
wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:01 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 20:02@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?
No the Canadian CEO of Spotify
Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.
Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:03 last edited by
@xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:
Sniffs as sensible. Written by a man not invested in proving himself as if he's a child in a schoolyard forging an identity standing up to a bully.
Anyway, posturing about standing up to bullies is very cheap. We'll see how this goes.
Or, maybe a trade war ends well for Canada in the long run. I guess that's the notion? Or are we really at a "death before dishonor" crossroads?
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wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:03 last edited by
Now, what is actually going to happen?
Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.