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  • K kluurs
    2 Feb 2025, 18:27

    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

    I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:22 last edited by
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    @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

    I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

    So, Trump is responsible for keeping USPS costs down?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • J jon-nyc
      2 Feb 2025, 18:35

      Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

      It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:25 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

      It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

      And some people wonder why other people would ever desire their head on a pike.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • K kluurs
        2 Feb 2025, 18:27

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:31 last edited by
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        @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

        How many jobs did that create? Isn’t that a net win?

        The Brad

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        • B blondie
          2 Feb 2025, 14:57

          I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:42 last edited by
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          @blondie said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

          They were right?

          https://nypost.com/2025/02/02/us-news/shopify-ceo-defends-trump-tariff-demands-slams-trudeau/

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Renauda
            wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:43 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 19:46
            #66

            I see the resident Foghorn of Continual Distractions is trying to enter what is otherwise an adult discussion and gain undeserved attention.

            Elbows up!

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:45 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 19:45
              #67

              “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

              Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

              Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • J jon-nyc
                2 Feb 2025, 19:45

                “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

                Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

                Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

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                Renauda
                wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:49 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 19:53
                #68

                @jon-nyc

                Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                Elbows up!

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:54 last edited by
                  #69

                  This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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                  • R Renauda
                    2 Feb 2025, 19:49

                    @jon-nyc

                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:58 last edited by
                    #70

                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc

                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                    No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:58 last edited by
                      #71

                      A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

                      The Brad

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:59 last edited by
                        #72

                        Yeah but Canada’s paying the difference, eh?

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          2 Feb 2025, 19:58

                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @jon-nyc

                          Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                          No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:01 last edited by Renauda 2 Feb 2025, 20:02
                          #73

                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @jon-nyc

                          Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                          No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                          Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                          Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                          Elbows up!

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                          • X xenon
                            2 Feb 2025, 19:54

                            This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:03 last edited by
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                            @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

                            Sniffs as sensible. Written by a man not invested in proving himself as if he's a child in a schoolyard forging an identity standing up to a bully.

                            Anyway, posturing about standing up to bullies is very cheap. We'll see how this goes.

                            Or, maybe a trade war ends well for Canada in the long run. I guess that's the notion? Or are we really at a "death before dishonor" crossroads?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:03 last edited by
                              #75

                              Now, what is actually going to happen?

                              Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • J Jolly
                                2 Feb 2025, 20:03

                                Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                xenon
                                wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:06 last edited by
                                #76

                                @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                                What about the part where no business leader would plan for an integrated supply chain anymore?

                                And what’s actually happening at the Canadian border that’s causing such a mess in the US? That’s still not very clear to people. Hard to address a problem without knowing what it is.

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                                • J Jolly
                                  2 Feb 2025, 20:03

                                  Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                  Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:07 last edited by
                                  #77

                                  @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                  Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away.

                                  That is my hope.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    2 Feb 2025, 20:03

                                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:09 last edited by
                                    #78

                                    @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                                    Tightens up the border? For what? How many migrants are busted from Canada? How much Fentanyl has been shipped into the US from Canada? The only complaint that I’ve seen about the Canadian border is that it’s too difficult to get in…

                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:16 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 22:38
                                      #79

                                      If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                                      That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                                      I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:18 last edited by
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                                        This seems accurate.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 20:21 last edited by
                                          #81

                                          From 2023...

                                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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