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  • kluursK kluurs

    And if Trump gets the Keystone XL built, that will mean more exports to world markets.

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    Renauda
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    #54

    @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    And if Trump gets the Keystone XL built, that will mean more exports to world markets.

    And what if he does but won’t be able to tie into the line we built to the border? Pipeline is useless without product to ship.

    Elbows up!

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

      If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

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      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

      If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

      Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

        Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

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        #56

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

        Trump doesn’t want to resolve it though events may force his hand. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

        As I mentioned in another thread. Trump has no compunction against pivoting and moving to a more market friendly position if he sees the tide turning against him…

        He lacks the courage of his convictions at times. Feel free to make all the jokes that you would like out of that.

        The Brad

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

          If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

          Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

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          #57

          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
          Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

          I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...

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          • kluursK kluurs

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
            Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

            I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...

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            #58

            @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
            Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

            I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline... This Presidency, he can nuke the hurricanes with no one stopping him.

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            • kluursK kluurs

              @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
              Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

              I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...

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              #59

              @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
              Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

              I think folks would forgive prices not decreasing - but increasing prices? - not so much especially when the layoffs come - so the twin pincers of higher prices and increased unemployment might shake even some of the faithful. Follow that with a stock market decline...

              His winning margin wasn't from the faithful, it was from swing voters who voted for a better economy. Maga is toast if this stuff all backfires in ways they feel.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Swing folks are already scared.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

                  If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

                  Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

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                  Renauda
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                  #61

                  @jon-nyc

                  Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal.

                  Autarky. An interesting and, for me at least, a disconcerting thought. The US would need unfettered sovereign access to a multitude of natural resources including fresh water to attain that goal.

                  Contrary to what John Bolton has said that Trump is incapable of a grand strategy, I cannot entirely rule out that a malevolent and imperialist design is what motivates Trump’s thinking.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

                    I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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                    @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

                    I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

                    So, Trump is responsible for keeping USPS costs down?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

                      It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

                      It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

                      And some people wonder why other people would ever desire their head on a pike.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • kluursK kluurs

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

                        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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                        #64

                        @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

                        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

                        How many jobs did that create? Isn’t that a net win?

                        The Brad

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                        • B blondie

                          I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

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                          @blondie said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

                          They were right?

                          https://nypost.com/2025/02/02/us-news/shopify-ceo-defends-trump-tariff-demands-slams-trudeau/

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            #66

                            I see the resident Foghorn of Continual Distractions is trying to enter what is otherwise an adult discussion and gain undeserved attention.

                            Elbows up!

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                              “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

                              Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

                              Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

                                Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

                                Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

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                                #68

                                @jon-nyc

                                Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                Elbows up!

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                                  This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

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                                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                    No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

                                      The Brad

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                                        Yeah but Canada’s paying the difference, eh?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc

                                          Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                          No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

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                                          #73

                                          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          @jon-nyc

                                          Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                                          No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                                          Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                                          Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                                          Elbows up!

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