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  • kluursK Offline
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    Swing folks are already scared.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

      If this doesn’t resolve itself within 4 weeks, sure.

      Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal. Though at some point markets and inflation will force his hand.

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      @jon-nyc

      Trump doesn’t want to resolve it. It’s pretty clear from his comments that fentanyl is there for the legal justification but autarky is the goal.

      Autarky. An interesting and, for me at least, a disconcerting thought. The US would need unfettered sovereign access to a multitude of natural resources including fresh water to attain that goal.

      Contrary to what John Bolton has said that Trump is incapable of a grand strategy, I cannot entirely rule out that a malevolent and imperialist design is what motivates Trump’s thinking.

      Elbows up!

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      • kluursK kluurs

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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        @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

        I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

        So, Trump is responsible for keeping USPS costs down?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

          It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

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          @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Even if it does. Why stay exposed to the next petty tyrant?

          It’s not like his base is against this. They’re watching fox with one hand in their pants and the other in their bag of potato chips. This could happen again post Trump.

          And some people wonder why other people would ever desire their head on a pike.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • kluursK kluurs

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

            I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

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            @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

            If you’re Canada do you have any choice but to invest in more pipelines to Pacific ports?

            I remember when Trump threatened Amazon with increased postal costs. At the time, over 80% of the deliveries in our area were via USPS. Now, 100% of them are by Amazon.

            How many jobs did that create? Isn’t that a net win?

            The Brad

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            • B blondie

              I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

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              @blondie said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              I logged back on to say this @Renauda. Rebel News. lol.

              They were right?

              https://nypost.com/2025/02/02/us-news/shopify-ceo-defends-trump-tariff-demands-slams-trudeau/

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                #66

                I see the resident Foghorn of Continual Distractions is trying to enter what is otherwise an adult discussion and gain undeserved attention.

                Elbows up!

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                  #67

                  “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

                  Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

                  Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    “These are things that every Canadian wants its government to do, too. These are not crazy demands, even if they came from an unpopular source."

                    Wait, there are demands? Can someone link to them?

                    Shopify is big in the US, is this just another businessman publicly buttering up TFM?

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                    #68

                    @jon-nyc

                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                    Elbows up!

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                      This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @jon-nyc

                        Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

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                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @jon-nyc

                        Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                        No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

                          The Brad

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                            Yeah but Canada’s paying the difference, eh?

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              @jon-nyc

                              Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                              No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

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                              #73

                              @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              @jon-nyc

                              Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                              No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                              Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                              Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                              Elbows up!

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                              • X xenon

                                This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

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                                @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                This is the tweet. A charitable reading could be that Trump just needs a few strokes under (or I guess above) the table and this would be over:

                                Sniffs as sensible. Written by a man not invested in proving himself as if he's a child in a schoolyard forging an identity standing up to a bully.

                                Anyway, posturing about standing up to bullies is very cheap. We'll see how this goes.

                                Or, maybe a trade war ends well for Canada in the long run. I guess that's the notion? Or are we really at a "death before dishonor" crossroads?

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                  Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                    @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                                    What about the part where no business leader would plan for an integrated supply chain anymore?

                                    And what’s actually happening at the Canadian border that’s causing such a mess in the US? That’s still not very clear to people. Hard to address a problem without knowing what it is.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                      @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away.

                                      That is my hope.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                        Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                                        @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        Now, what is actually going to happen?

                                        Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                                        Tightens up the border? For what? How many migrants are busted from Canada? How much Fentanyl has been shipped into the US from Canada? The only complaint that I’ve seen about the Canadian border is that it’s too difficult to get in…

                                        The Brad

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                                          If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                                          That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                                          I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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