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  • 89th8 Offline
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    I have but a simple brain, but an alternative would be to pass a 20-year spending plan that decreases spending on non-essentials, increases taxes for all, with a clear goal of what the "finish line" looks like, and once reached, an immutable law that spending must not result in XYZ debt unless 2/3 of the house and senate approve a wartime approval or some shit like that. In other words, a painful get healthy plan with strict fiscal guardrails in place.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Kalshi, the betting market for which Don Jr is an ‘advisor’, is now predicting close to 50T of debt by the time Trump is finished.

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      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

      Kalshi, the betting market for which Don Jr is an ‘advisor’, is now predicting close to 50T of debt by the time Trump is finished.

      I mean, on its own, that looks pretty fucking horrible, but by itself it doesn’t tell anywhere near the whole story. What would the alternatives look like? What happens if they allowed the TCJA cuts to expire? What does it look like if we cut spending even a moderate amount? The debt service and the entitlement programs would still push us to that point anyway, whether it’s 1-2 years earlier or later.

      The Brad

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        So why aren’t we talking about the Jobs Report? https://thenationaldesk.com/news/americas-news-now/american-born-employment-reaches-record-high-as-foreign-born-jobs-continue-to-decline

        A record number of jobs for American born workers and a significant drop in foreign born jobs.

        Wages are up 3.7% over last year contrasted with 2.4% inflation, so that’s real wage growth.

        https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/

        The Brad

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          Real wages have been growing since 2022. Though they’re down in q1 from 4q2024.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Real wages have been growing since 2022. Though they’re down in q1 from 4q2024.

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            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

            Real wages have been growing since 2022. Though they’re down in q1 from 4q2024.

            And it was fantastic for the illegals…

            The Brad

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              #1012

              Trump announced a 50% tariff on copper. I think we have maybe 5% of the world’s supply, Chile has like 30%.

              Besides needlessly making construction and power generation more expensive, we’ve seen in the past when copper prices rise, so does crime as people steal/destroy things with high copper content to sell them.

              Nice going, Trump.

              They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                It seems so economically pointless it makes me wonder if this is a patronage play that belongs in the corruption thread.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                • X Offline
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                  Every business plan in corporate America this year just has a line item for "chaos monkey" right now. This is ridiculous.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    With all the taxes on lumber and copper... get ready for even higher new home build prices!

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                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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