FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 13:41 last edited by
And 160 years later you want to give them a participation trophy?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/13/politics/pete-hegseth-confederate-generals-military-bases
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 13:44 last edited by
I'm getting the impression he really does not want to be SecDef.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 13:46 last edited by
MacArthur let Hirohito live.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 14:24 last edited by
Bring back Fort Hood! Fort Lee! Etc.!
Seriously, Eisenhower had a picture of Mars Lee in the Oval Office.
Y'all get over it.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 14:40 last edited by Aqua Letifer
They were losers, but so were we. Just because the outcome set us on a course for abolition doesn't mean every other outcome was excellent and grand and ideal for everybody forever onwards.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:09 last edited by
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:09 last edited by
@Copper said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
MacArthur let Hirohito live.
We let them live too.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:11 last edited by 89th
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:23 last edited by@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Who's we?
It's always 'we' when our ancestors won, and 'they' when they did sketchy shit. So, I am obliged to thank the great grandparents of people who helped my grandparents beat the Germans in 1944, but I have no right to expect an apology for the fact that their ancestors stole, forcibly buggered and then cooked my great-great-great-great uncle's favourite prize-winning pig during the War of Independence.
Hypothetically, of course.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 15:39 last edited by jon-nyc@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:37 last edited by
Mine were still in Canada.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:47 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
Fun story actually. He was the company surgeon. At 17.
Why? Before the war he was apprenticed to a butcher. He could cut limbs off a mammal better than anyone else in the company.
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 17:52 last edited by@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
Damnyankee.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 18:10 last edited by
Not sure why this is even an issue? Names change all the time.
For example, why is it a good thing to name a military base after Gen. Bragg?? LOL
Braxton Bragg Was Considered One Of The Worst Generals In The Civil War
Why was it named Fort Bragg?
the local chamber of commerce named Fort Bragg after General Braxton Bragg because he was the only general from North Carolina during the Civil War.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 18:37 last edited by
Every participating state got a trophy.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 20:21 last edited by
And we all share Juneteenth.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:22 last edited by
You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:28 last edited by
Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:00 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
Yeah, the economic base was already laid. The South lost the ultimate war before they ever fired a shot. But the short term tactical win would have had a dramatic effect on federal vs state power.
