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Mr. Clemency

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #227

    Yes, and we may die due to the asteroid hitting earth tomorrow.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • N NobodySock

      @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

      @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

      At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

      That's mental illness territory.

      He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

      Lol! I had to address the very accusation made to me last night on FB. Will just copy paste here......

      yeah , that's it. I condem the man because I may have to return to the office 5 days a week. Oh the horror of it all! A 7 minute drive downtown Monday through Friday is way too much to ask of this lazy inept Federal worker. FYI, I go into the office every Friday for work as per the Union agreement made with my agency. I actually look forward to Fridays as I get out of the house and have a nice lunch downtown somewhere and ride my ebike there and back and enjoy the sunshine. Making all of us return to work in the office full time is a nothing burger for me. I've been doing it for 95 percent of my career. What you may not know in your glee to see federal employees getting slapped around, is the final bill that you and I taxpayers get to pay for rebuilding up the space required for this to happen as there is nowhere near the facility to hold all fed employees back to the "office". Many buildings have already been sold or contracts ended all throughout the USA. Are you ready for that price tag to reaquire the office space? It may even make Elon blink.

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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #228

      @NobodySock said in Mr. Clemency:

      @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

      @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

      At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

      That's mental illness territory.

      He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

      Lol! I had to address the very accusation made to me last night on FB. Will just copy paste here......

      yeah , that's it. I condem the man because I may have to return to the office 5 days a week. Oh the horror of it all! A 7 minute drive downtown Monday through Friday is way too much to ask of this lazy inept Federal worker. FYI, I go into the office every Friday for work as per the Union agreement made with my agency. I actually look forward to Fridays as I get out of the house and have a nice lunch downtown somewhere and ride my ebike there and back and enjoy the sunshine. Making all of us return to work in the office full time is a nothing burger for me. I've been doing it for 95 percent of my career. What you may not know in your glee to see federal employees getting slapped around, is the final bill that you and I taxpayers get to pay for rebuilding up the space required for this to happen as there is nowhere near the facility to hold all fed employees back to the "office". Many buildings have already been sold or contracts ended all throughout the USA. Are you ready for that price tag to reaquire the office space? It may even make Elon blink.

      See? I told y'all he's pissed about having to go back to the office. 😄

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Yes, and we may die due to the asteroid hitting earth tomorrow.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #229

        @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

        Yes, and we may die due to the asteroid hitting earth tomorrow.

        And Trump might be a fat con man tomorrow. But I’m not sure what that has to do with this thread.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • RichR Rich

          @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

          @Rich said in Mr. Clemency:

          @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

          I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.

          Trump 2016, offered up tons of rhetoric about prosecuting 'Crooked Hillary' ("lock her up/You'd be in jail", etc)

          As soon as he won---he dropped it. So, I guess if we go by Trumps own actions---this may well have just been a bunch of rhetoric. The people who have been printing things for Biden to scribble his name on are aware of this--so I would say quite debatable acksually. 🙂

          Shame on him for giving Biden the political cover for his pre-emptive pardons though.

          Actually, go pull the tapes.

          Madcow, CNN, several of the other folks at MSDNC (Madcow's network) were having hissy fits at the end of Trump's first term, because Trump inquired his staff about whether preemptive pardons were constitutional.

          He did not pardon anybody preemptively.

          What I'm saying is Trump (unnecessarily) gave Biden political cover for the pardons...even though Trumps past actions don't indicate a predilection towards 'lawfare'.

          If Trump had kept his mouth shut--even in the post election time period--Bidens handlers may not have felt the justification to write up these pardons, and we'd have been able to get the investigations he claims to have wanted. Unless, in a sort of 4(or maybe 5 or 6)D chess move--he knew the investigations would fizzle out...So by by threatening prosecution, he tricked the Biden crime family into pardoning themselves--making them look guilty, which would achieve the best effort-to-victory ratio possible under the circumstances.

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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by Mik
          #230

          @Rich said in Mr. Clemency:

          @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

          @Rich said in Mr. Clemency:

          @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

          I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.

          Trump 2016, offered up tons of rhetoric about prosecuting 'Crooked Hillary' ("lock her up/You'd be in jail", etc)

          As soon as he won---he dropped it. So, I guess if we go by Trumps own actions---this may well have just been a bunch of rhetoric. The people who have been printing things for Biden to scribble his name on are aware of this--so I would say quite debatable acksually. 🙂

          Shame on him for giving Biden the political cover for his pre-emptive pardons though.

          Actually, go pull the tapes.

          Madcow, CNN, several of the other folks at MSDNC (Madcow's network) were having hissy fits at the end of Trump's first term, because Trump inquired his staff about whether preemptive pardons were constitutional.

          He did not pardon anybody preemptively.

          What I'm saying is Trump (unnecessarily) gave Biden political cover for the pardons...even though Trumps past actions don't indicate a predilection towards 'lawfare'.

          If Trump had kept his mouth shut--even in the post election time period--Bidens handlers may not have felt the justification to write up these pardons, and we'd have been able to get the investigations he claims to have wanted. Unless, in a sort of 4(or maybe 5 or 6)D chess move--he knew the investigations would fizzle out...So by by threatening prosecution, he tricked the Biden crime family into pardoning themselves--making them look guilty, which would achieve the best effort-to-victory ratio possible under the circumstances.

          Exactly. Biden fell right into the trap that was set for him. Trump doesn't have to waste time going after a doddering old man because he already, for all intents and purposes, admitted their guilt. All of them.

          Now Trump can claim to have risen above lawfare.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Jolly
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            #231

            I'm saying that we don't have a clue about what Trump is going to do about Biden, other than what he said in Hannity's interview.

            Going by that, he's inclined not to do anything.

            OTOH, he's not speaking for Congress.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • N NobodySock

              @Horace said in Mr. Clemency:

              @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

              I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

              Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

              That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.

              Except when those flaws include Treason. Sorry, you're fired!

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              AndyD
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              #232

              @NobodySock

              20250125_173110.jpg

              And yet given a vote, a majority of Americans have effectively found him not guilty; and trusted him to be their boss.

              Do you think a focussed legal trial would have produced a different result?

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #233

                No.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #234

                  And...Enjoy the convicted felon moniker while you can. That one will be gone before long.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    No.

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                    AndyD
                    wrote on last edited by AndyD
                    #235

                    @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                    No.

                    I'd have to agree with you.

                    I enjoy nothing about Trump, even the humour he generates is grim.

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                    • A AndyD

                      @NobodySock

                      20250125_173110.jpg

                      And yet given a vote, a majority of Americans have effectively found him not guilty; and trusted him to be their boss.

                      Do you think a focussed legal trial would have produced a different result?

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #236

                      @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

                      @NobodySock

                      20250125_173110.jpg

                      And yet given a vote, a majority of Americans have effectively found him not guilty; and trusted him to be their boss.

                      Not even a majority of voters. But he got a solid plurality.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #237

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #238

                          At least Carter's family is relieved. No longer will it be, "Carter was a good man, but the worst President in the last 100 years."

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • A AndyD

                            @NobodySock

                            20250125_173110.jpg

                            And yet given a vote, a majority of Americans have effectively found him not guilty; and trusted him to be their boss.

                            Do you think a focussed legal trial would have produced a different result?

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                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #239

                            @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

                            trusted him to be their boss.

                            He is an employee.

                            Whom we pay less than minimum wage.

                            Not a boss.

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                              Copper
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                              #240

                              And that picture is from the first inauguration, so the captions don't work.

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