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Mr. Clemency

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    Jolly
    wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 06:06 last edited by
    #184

    At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

    That's mental illness territory.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      NobodySock
      wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 08:38 last edited by NobodySock
      #185

      If you say so oh sage one. More importantly, there are proven ways to get all that sand out of your eyes and ears after having them buried in it for so long. I can provide links. And I have to ask, curious creature that I am, I thought for sure you would have added your input to my queries on my upcoming piano hunt. I remember the topic of pianos was something you had much interest in with all kinds of good advice. Particularly the Baldwin question. I remember your fondness for them in the days of yore.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 11:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
        #186

        We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

        I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

        I was only joking

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          22 Jan 2025, 11:27

          We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

          I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:30 last edited by
          #187

          @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

          We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

          I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

          Biden had been a typical Washington pol up to a point, using his influence and knowledge to make money, but I'm not sure he was super corrupt. Then, somewhere around 2014, the Biden Crime Family went into the " make it rain" mode and threw a lot of caution to the winds.

          Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            22 Jan 2025, 11:27

            We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

            I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.

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            George K
            wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:34 last edited by
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:

            We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.

            Exactly. "Your criminals are worse than my criminals."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
              wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:37 last edited by
              #189

              I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:40 last edited by
                #190

                I don't care for the Biden blanket pardons. Pardons are usually issued for individual (and usually adjudicated) acts.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  22 Jan 2025, 12:37

                  I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:42 last edited by jon-nyc
                  #191

                  @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

                  I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.

                  Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:44 last edited by
                    #192

                    What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.

                    I was only joking

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                      89th
                      wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:54 last edited by
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                      60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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                        22 Jan 2025, 12:54

                        60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:05 last edited by
                        #194

                        @89th said in Mr. Clemency:

                        60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.

                        What about the other 20%?

                        I was only joking

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                        • J Jolly
                          22 Jan 2025, 06:06

                          At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                          That's mental illness territory.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:17 last edited by
                          #195

                          @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                          At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                          That's mental illness territory.

                          He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • M Mik
                            22 Jan 2025, 13:17

                            @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                            At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                            That's mental illness territory.

                            He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:18 last edited by
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                            @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                            @Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:

                            At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?

                            That's mental illness territory.

                            He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.

                            Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              George K
                              wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:29 last edited by
                              #197

                              Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                AndyD
                                wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:23 last edited by
                                #198

                                I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:24 last edited by Renauda
                                  #199

                                  Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.

                                  You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    22 Jan 2025, 14:23

                                    I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                    Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:30 last edited by
                                    #200

                                    @AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:

                                    I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.

                                    Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.

                                    That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      22 Jan 2025, 13:29

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:36 last edited by jon-nyc
                                      #201

                                      @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                                      Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                                      You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        22 Jan 2025, 14:36

                                        @George-K said in Mr. Clemency:

                                        Screenshot 2025-01-22 at 7.28.40 AM.png

                                        You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:54 last edited by
                                        #202

                                        @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                        You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

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                                        I was only joking

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                                        • D Doctor Phibes
                                          22 Jan 2025, 14:54

                                          @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                                          You gotta help us out here. Who’s the guy on the right?

                                          ceb4aaee-301b-4947-9ee6-6093333b3001-image.png

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:55 last edited by
                                          #203

                                          @Doctor-Phibes 👍

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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