Mr. Clemency
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 04:54 last edited by
I hope you all have good chiropracters and are covered insurance wise. That water you guys have to carry gets heavier each day.
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@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged...
Innocent until proven guilty.
Have all the charged been tried?
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 04:57 last edited by@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean the Jan 6th folks were charged...
Innocent until proven guilty.
Have all the charged been tried?
If not, then that is another travesty of justice. So many holes in the system to count The Beatles get it, probably as many as the Albert Hall.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 06:06 last edited by
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 08:38 last edited by NobodySock
If you say so oh sage one. More importantly, there are proven ways to get all that sand out of your eyes and ears after having them buried in it for so long. I can provide links. And I have to ask, curious creature that I am, I thought for sure you would have added your input to my queries on my upcoming piano hunt. I remember the topic of pianos was something you had much interest in with all kinds of good advice. Particularly the Baldwin question. I remember your fondness for them in the days of yore.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 11:27 last edited by Doctor Phibes
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
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We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:30 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
Biden had been a typical Washington pol up to a point, using his influence and knowledge to make money, but I'm not sure he was super corrupt. Then, somewhere around 2014, the Biden Crime Family went into the " make it rain" mode and threw a lot of caution to the winds.
Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
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We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
I have to say it's not particularly inspiring.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:34 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Mr. Clemency:
We're basically arguing about which of the Presidents is less corrupt.
Exactly. "Your criminals are worse than my criminals."
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:37 last edited by
I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:40 last edited by
I don't care for the Biden blanket pardons. Pardons are usually issued for individual (and usually adjudicated) acts.
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I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable. Biden's other pardons/clemencies earlier in this thread... seems normal for most Presidents, not that I agree with most of it.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:42 last edited by jon-nyc@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
I mean, Biden only did the last minute pardons because of Trump's threats. That part isn't even debatable.
Yep. The anomaly is a presidential candidate who talked about prosecuting his political enemies at every campaign whistle stop, who then chooses a sycophant who as AG who went as far as publishing a book with a list of 60 ‘enemies of the state’.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:44 last edited by
What I find odd is how many people apparently can't see how fucked up both sides are.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 12:54 last edited by
60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:05 last edited by
@89th said in Mr. Clemency:
60% of the country is dumb, the other 60% are idiots.
What about the other 20%?
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:17 last edited by
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
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@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:18 last edited by@Mik said in Mr. Clemency:
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
At three-in-a-row, I start to question myself. Five?
That's mental illness territory.
He's just pissed because he has to go back to the office.
Thought he was retiring to Spain and buying a $100k piano.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 13:29 last edited by
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:23 last edited by
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:24 last edited by Renauda
Trump? I don't find Trump inherently corrupt. I feel like one could certainly get screwed in a business deal with Trump or that he would use money and lawyers to steamroll people and institutions to get what he wants, but I wouldn't label that as corrupt.
You’re probably right, his boundless sense of entitlement exceeds the callous venality of his actions.
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I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:30 last edited by@AndyD said in Mr. Clemency:
I have to admit that when I hire a plumber, I don't care that he is a braggart, a bore, vain, needy, unfaithful to his wife, downright dishonest and a convicted criminal, just so as long as he fixes the heating.
Trump is a flawed man but Americans have employed him to do a job.
That is a remarkably reasonable take, thanks for that.
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wrote on 22 Jan 2025, 14:36 last edited by jon-nyc
