UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot

[George K]

I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

I have found almost no sympathy for this guy anywhere on social media. I think America is united in its hatred of our health insurance system.

I’ve seen too many jokes about whether he was waiting to get his treatment approved when he died. I’ve not seen the glee which I’m sure is there from haters. Because I’ve gone out of my way not to look.

[jon-nyc]

What an age we live in that 12 hours after the guy is assassinated there’s a random dude breaking down the video with 1000s of views.

[jon-nyc]

When Reagan was shot in 81 all we got was a slo-mo video on infinite loop.

[jon-nyc]

Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

a random dude

Not really. I started following Runkle during the Johnny Depp/Kyle Rittenhouse trials.

He has over a hundred thousand followers on X and more than a quarter million on YouTube.

[jon-nyc]

Fair enough

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Fair enough

He also REALLY knows guns. He's a firearm defense attorney in Canada (Edmonton), and has argued cases before the Supreme Court in Canada.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

Possibly, because the gases don't bleed the same way. Besides, for a suppressor to be at its best, you need subsonic ammo, which has to be loaded down in almost all cases. Depending on the pistol, some are a lot more finicky about pressure than others. At the least, you should probably put in different weight recoil springs or buffers.

Pistols silence better than revolvers, because of the cylinder gap. Some guns just won't work with suppressors. An M1 carbine will blow a suppressor apart (don't ask me how I know) because the .30 carbine round is a hot pistol round in truth and generates a good deal of gas to work the action

[Jolly]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

People are creatures of habit? Or he knew the victim's meeting schedule and staked out the site?

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

I've read one report that he was there all night long, waiting. That would be a bit suspicious, no?

[Renauda]

@Jolly

He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.

Okay, so he was a nonchalant and cold blooded amateur with a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

[George K]

@Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.

I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?

[taiwan_girl]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

[89th]

@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

Reddit agrees lol

[jon-nyc]

@taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

Right. I have questions.

If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?

If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?

But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

[89th]

Thompson was probably coming back from banging the shooter’s wife. That answers all of Jon’s questions! Occam’s razor and all that.

[jon-nyc]

Impossible. I was banging the shooter’s wife at 6am this morning. In the Avis garage at LaGuardia.

[Renauda]

@George-K

We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.

Merely a matter of perspective on handguns. Of no consequence.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.

As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.

But yes overall this is weird AF.