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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    Depending on who Trump picks for Secretary of Concentration Camps, those sorts of posts might be pretty dangerous.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

      The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

      89th8 Offline
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      #30

      @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

      Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

      The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

      Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nycJ Online
        jon-nyc
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        #31

        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

        TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • 89th8 89th

          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

          The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

          Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #32

          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

          Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

          The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

          Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

          You don’t want them deciding not to share a thanksgiving table with you.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • Tom-KT Offline
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            Tom-K
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            #33

            At least he doesnt, "like um' young."

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #34

              Bottom line...Can he do the job?

              Lots of people in the North thought Lincoln was nuts for appointing Grant.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #35

                It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #36

                  I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    The military will go back from DEI

                    I don't know about that.

                    Do we want the Russians or Chinese to have more DEI than us?

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                      That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                      Tom-KT Offline
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                      Tom-K
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                      #38

                      @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                      That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                      So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                      If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

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                      • Tom-KT Tom-K

                        @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                        That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                        So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                        If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

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                        George K
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                        @Tom-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        If he can break one oath, he can break another.

                        Give that man a cigar.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                          Lots of people in the North thought Lincoln was nuts for appointing Grant.

                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                          Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                          Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                          If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                            Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                            If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                            Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                            If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                            I think loyalty is a component. I also think the guy's view of what the military needs to be, plays a huge part. This is a guy with two bronze stars, so he's no perfumed prince. So, in that area, he's a true believer.

                            The problem is the wimmen.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                              @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                              Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                              Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                              If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                              I think loyalty is a component. I also think the guy's view of what the military needs to be, plays a huge part. This is a guy with two bronze stars, so he's no perfumed prince. So, in that area, he's a true believer.

                              The problem is the wimmen.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #42

                              @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                              The problem is the wimmen.

                              Seems like that's true of a few of Trump's picks. I'd guess the levels of narcissism are higher than average in that little group.

                              I was only joking

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                                #43

                                Yet, the narcissist just pulled off maybe the biggest comeback in American politics.

                                Ever.

                                So, there's something there. Maybe it's just the economy. Or maybe the country likes a fighter and is tired of the legacy media blowing smoke up their ass. Or feels like lawfare is unfair and unAmerican.

                                And if his opposition doesn't get their head out their ass and figure out why the guy got elected, they may get a chance to live with the narcissists policies for the next decade.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Yet, the narcissist just pulled off maybe the biggest comeback in American politics.

                                  Ever.

                                  So, there's something there. Maybe it's just the economy. Or maybe the country likes a fighter and is tired of the legacy media blowing smoke up their ass. Or feels like lawfare is unfair and unAmerican.

                                  And if his opposition doesn't get their head out their ass and figure out why the guy got elected, they may get a chance to live with the narcissists policies for the next decade.

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                                  89th
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                                  @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                  Yet, the narcissist just pulled off maybe the biggest comeback in American politics.

                                  Ever.

                                  I'd argue this was the biggest comeback. His poll numbers were down, the media were criticizing him, yet he inspired pilots to go up and whoop some alien ass.

                                  Link to video

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #45

                                    Was the Trump campaign the biggest comeback ever? Or was it one of the biggest collapses by the Dems ever?

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
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                                      Epic collapse, no argument. Bad candidate replaced by worse candidate.

                                      But...Has there ever been a candidate for POTUS that...

                                      1. Had been defeated in his reelection bid?
                                      2. That had been impeached twice?
                                      3. That had a Whitehouse coordinated lawfare campaign ran against him, starting when he left office?
                                      4. That was pilloried by a House "investigative" committee in Prime Time?
                                      5. That was outspent during the campaign 3:1?
                                      6. That had 90% of the media arraigned against him?

                                      You can one or two of those in other successful bids, but I don't think you can
                                      get a majority, let alone all.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by Horace
                                        #47

                                        Right guy, right time, but the same can be said for many historically important figures. You could make a case that Trump is the right candidate for generations of people educated on the internet. Now, the left would say that that means it's all because of mis and disinformation, but I would say it's because the internet has shown the mainstream elite class to be posers who can't actually back up their pretensions of being the educated adults in the room, regardless of how much they believe that.

                                        Was talking to my mom yesterday and she was telling me about one of her friends in her elderly white female friend group. Big leftist, big Trump hater. She's the educated one, she's the smart one, all the Trump supporters are idiotic conspiracy theorists. You can't even parody these people, because they all live the parody, and they are everywhere. When we moved here, the first neighbor couple we got to know, the wife was entirely that person. Just pure sneering in all political issues, against the right. The degree to which this repulsive condescension became the mainstream, unashamed personality of the left, it's just magnificent. That stuff will have to be unwound, if they would like to win elections going forward.

                                        Education is extremely important.

                                        JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          Right guy, right time, but the same can be said for many historically important figures. You could make a case that Trump is the right candidate for generations of people educated on the internet. Now, the left would say that that means it's all because of mis and disinformation, but I would say it's because the internet has shown the mainstream elite class to be posers who can't actually back up their pretensions of being the educated adults in the room, regardless of how much they believe that.

                                          Was talking to my mom yesterday and she was telling me about one of her friends in her elderly white female friend group. Big leftist, big Trump hater. She's the educated one, she's the smart one, all the Trump supporters are idiotic conspiracy theorists. You can't even parody these people, because they all live the parody, and they are everywhere. When we moved here, the first neighbor couple we got to know, the wife was entirely that person. Just pure sneering in all political issues, against the right. The degree to which this repulsive condescension became the mainstream, unashamed personality of the left, it's just magnificent. That stuff will have to be unwound, if they would like to win elections going forward.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          The degree to which this repulsive condescension became the mainstream, unashamed personality of the left, it's just magnificent. That stuff will have to be unwound, if they would like to win elections going forward.

                                          Amen.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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