The Hegseth "incident."
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@89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.
LOL.
Yeah...what sober woman takes a drunk guy to his hotel room at 2 AM and is "surprised" at what happens?
But, as I alluded above, thought this incident, by itself, is not disqualifying, the pattern of behavior, including the fact that he admitted to this probably is.
Not legally (I believe he did not rape her), but practically.
He is a liability, and that's the last thing President-Elect Trump needs.
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@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.
The TDS is strong within this one, it is.
Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.
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@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.
The TDS is strong within this one, it is.
TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.
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@89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.
The TDS is strong within this one, it is.
Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.
You don’t want them deciding not to share a thanksgiving table with you.
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It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.
That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough
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I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.
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@LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":
The military will go back from DEI
I don't know about that.
Do we want the Russians or Chinese to have more DEI than us?
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@jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":
It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.
That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough
So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.
If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.
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@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Bottom line...Can he do the job?
Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.
If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":
@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Bottom line...Can he do the job?
Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.
If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.
I think loyalty is a component. I also think the guy's view of what the military needs to be, plays a huge part. This is a guy with two bronze stars, so he's no perfumed prince. So, in that area, he's a true believer.
The problem is the wimmen.
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@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
The problem is the wimmen.
Seems like that's true of a few of Trump's picks. I'd guess the levels of narcissism are higher than average in that little group.
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Yet, the narcissist just pulled off maybe the biggest comeback in American politics.
Ever.
So, there's something there. Maybe it's just the economy. Or maybe the country likes a fighter and is tired of the legacy media blowing smoke up their ass. Or feels like lawfare is unfair and unAmerican.
And if his opposition doesn't get their head out their ass and figure out why the guy got elected, they may get a chance to live with the narcissists policies for the next decade.
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@Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":
Yet, the narcissist just pulled off maybe the biggest comeback in American politics.
Ever.
I'd argue this was the biggest comeback. His poll numbers were down, the media were criticizing him, yet he inspired pilots to go up and whoop some alien ass.
Link to video