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The Hegseth "incident."

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  • Tom-KT Tom-K

    But over all I'd consider him kind of a shitty guy. I'd rather it wasn't so. I'm sure he's going to be a great SoD, so no issues there, it just looks bad and makes him kind of creepy.

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    George K
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    Is it possible that there's something in the NDA that she wants kept private?

    @Tom-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

    But over all I'd consider him kind of a shitty guy. I'd rather it wasn't so. I'm sure he's going to be a great SoD, so no issues there, it just looks bad and makes him kind of creepy.

    Yes, and @jolly's concern about his penchant for womanizing is of concern - especially when it comes to such a high position.

    If I were President-Elect Trump, I'd jettison him. Too much of a potential liability with no real plus side. I'm sure there are many other more qualified people.

    I hear Kamala Harris might be looking for work.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

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        George K
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        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

        Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

        Word is that she was Hegseth's "Handler" for the conference. I have no idea what that means.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

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          • 89th8 89th

            Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

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            @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

            Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

            LOL.

            Yeah...what sober woman takes a drunk guy to his hotel room at 2 AM and is "surprised" at what happens?

            But, as I alluded above, thought this incident, by itself, is not disqualifying, the pattern of behavior, including the fact that he admitted to this probably is.

            Not legally (I believe he did not rape her), but practically.

            He is a liability, and that's the last thing President-Elect Trump needs.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

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              • 89th8 89th

                Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

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                @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Horace
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                  Depending on who Trump picks for Secretary of Concentration Camps, those sorts of posts might be pretty dangerous.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                    The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

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                    @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                    The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                    Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                      The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

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                      @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                      Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                      The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                      TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                        Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

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                        Horace
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                        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                        Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

                        You don’t want them deciding not to share a thanksgiving table with you.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Tom-K
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                          At least he doesnt, "like um' young."

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #34

                            Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                            Lots of people in the North thought Lincoln was nuts for appointing Grant.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                              That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

                                The Brad

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                  The military will go back from DEI

                                  I don't know about that.

                                  Do we want the Russians or Chinese to have more DEI than us?

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                    That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                    It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                    That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                                    So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                                    If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

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                                    • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                      It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                      That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                                      So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                                      If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

                                      George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      @Tom-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                      If he can break one oath, he can break another.

                                      Give that man a cigar.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                                        Lots of people in the North thought Lincoln was nuts for appointing Grant.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                        Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                                        Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                                        If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                                          Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                                          If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

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                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                                          Actually, the question is whether there are people available who can do the job better than him.

                                          If Trump's main prerequisite for picking him is because he thinks he'll be unquestionably loyal, then maybe his inability to remain faithful to his various wives is actually quite a big deal.

                                          I think loyalty is a component. I also think the guy's view of what the military needs to be, plays a huge part. This is a guy with two bronze stars, so he's no perfumed prince. So, in that area, he's a true believer.

                                          The problem is the wimmen.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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