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The Hegseth "incident."

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    Tom-K
    wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 00:08 last edited by
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    But over all I'd consider him kind of a shitty guy. I'd rather it wasn't so. I'm sure he's going to be a great SoD, so no issues there, it just looks bad and makes him kind of creepy.

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      Mik
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      She should be held accountable for violating the agreement, whatever that consists of.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        24 Nov 2024, 00:08

        But over all I'd consider him kind of a shitty guy. I'd rather it wasn't so. I'm sure he's going to be a great SoD, so no issues there, it just looks bad and makes him kind of creepy.

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        George K
        wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 00:44 last edited by
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        Is it possible that there's something in the NDA that she wants kept private?

        @Tom-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

        But over all I'd consider him kind of a shitty guy. I'd rather it wasn't so. I'm sure he's going to be a great SoD, so no issues there, it just looks bad and makes him kind of creepy.

        Yes, and @jolly's concern about his penchant for womanizing is of concern - especially when it comes to such a high position.

        If I were President-Elect Trump, I'd jettison him. Too much of a potential liability with no real plus side. I'm sure there are many other more qualified people.

        I hear Kamala Harris might be looking for work.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 02:12 last edited by
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          Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            24 Nov 2024, 02:12

            Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 02:14 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

            Does she charge by the hour or by the job?

            Word is that she was Hegseth's "Handler" for the conference. I have no idea what that means.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              89th
              wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 02:30 last edited by
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              Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

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                24 Nov 2024, 02:30

                Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

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                George K
                wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 02:37 last edited by
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                @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                Pretty clear case of non consensual sex. She was sober, he was intoxicated.

                LOL.

                Yeah...what sober woman takes a drunk guy to his hotel room at 2 AM and is "surprised" at what happens?

                But, as I alluded above, thought this incident, by itself, is not disqualifying, the pattern of behavior, including the fact that he admitted to this probably is.

                Not legally (I believe he did not rape her), but practically.

                He is a liability, and that's the last thing President-Elect Trump needs.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 02:42 last edited by
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                  Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

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                    24 Nov 2024, 02:42

                    Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 03:17 last edited by
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                    @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                    The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 04:10 last edited by
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                      Depending on who Trump picks for Secretary of Concentration Camps, those sorts of posts might be pretty dangerous.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        24 Nov 2024, 03:17

                        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 05:42 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                        The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                        Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

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                        • J Jolly
                          24 Nov 2024, 03:17

                          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                          Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                          The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 10:47 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                          @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                          Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                          The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                          TDS (noun): (1) Trump Derangement Syndrome. (2) A handy epithet used to dismiss claims that offend one's sensibilities without having to go to the bother of providing any arguments.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            24 Nov 2024, 05:42

                            @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                            The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                            Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 13:26 last edited by
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                            @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            @Jolly said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            @89th said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                            Trump has done enough adultery on his own, he doesn’t need even more help from his nominees.

                            The TDS is strong within this one, it is.

                            Or just a reminder why I didn’t vote for him. It’s surprisingly simple. I will not tell my kids I voted for someone so morally bankrupt. Ironic, since he loves bankruptcies.

                            You don’t want them deciding not to share a thanksgiving table with you.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Tom-K
                              wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 17:22 last edited by
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                              At least he doesnt, "like um' young."

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 17:31 last edited by
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                                Bottom line...Can he do the job?

                                Lots of people in the North thought Lincoln was nuts for appointing Grant.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 17:43 last edited by
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                                  It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                  That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 21:55 last edited by
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                                    I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • L LuFins Dad
                                      24 Nov 2024, 21:55

                                      I think whether it’s Hegseth or not, the result will be the same. A radical reorganization of the command and officer corps in the military. The military will go back from DEI and become more of a merit based organization, and the #1 merit will be making the other team dead, dead, dead.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 24 Nov 2024, 23:46 last edited by
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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                      The military will go back from DEI

                                      I don't know about that.

                                      Do we want the Russians or Chinese to have more DEI than us?

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                                        24 Nov 2024, 17:43

                                        It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                        That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

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                                        Tom-K
                                        wrote on 25 Nov 2024, 00:37 last edited by
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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                        It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                        That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                                        So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                                        If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

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                                        • T Tom-K
                                          25 Nov 2024, 00:37

                                          @jon-nyc said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          It’s notable that both he and Trump cheated on W1 with W2, and cheated on W2 with W3.

                                          That seems to be a pretty exclusive club. Seems like to be W3 of such a guy has to come with a little resignation that you’re bound to be cheated on also. Perhaps even with W4 if the guy’s young enough

                                          So the question is: can we trust him? Obviously, his wives couldn't and they were right.

                                          If he can break one oath, he can break another. That's just the kind of guy he is.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 25 Nov 2024, 00:41 last edited by
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                                          @Tom-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          If he can break one oath, he can break another.

                                          Give that man a cigar.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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