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  • J jon-nyc
    5 Nov 2024, 10:17

    @Jolly said in It’s starting:

    lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

    He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:18 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

    @Jolly said in It’s starting:

    lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

    He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

    People who want to last working for PResident Trump learn to tell him what he wants to hear.

    Otherwise, they will not be long working for him.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:19 last edited by
      #205

      Such a good quality in a leader.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:26 last edited by
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        Well, today we'll see...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:34 last edited by
          #207

          Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:46 last edited by
            #208

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:49 last edited by
              #209

              Interesting. From Nate.

              The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:53 last edited by
                #210

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:56 last edited by
                  #211

                  My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • J jon-nyc
                    5 Nov 2024, 11:49

                    Interesting. From Nate.

                    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 12:17 last edited by Jolly 11 May 2024, 12:18
                    #212

                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                    Interesting. From Nate.

                    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                    And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                    But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J jon-nyc
                      5 Nov 2024, 11:56

                      My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 12:58 last edited by
                      #213

                      @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                      My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of unmarried women voters due to Dobbs.

                      FIFYNNTTM

                      The Brad

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                      • J jon-nyc
                        5 Nov 2024, 11:53

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                        George K
                        wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 13:54 last edited by
                        #214

                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                        Biden won it 5-0 in 2020.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • J Jolly
                          5 Nov 2024, 12:17

                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                          Interesting. From Nate.

                          The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                          And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                          But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 14:50 last edited by
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                          @Jolly

                          My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • J jon-nyc
                            5 Nov 2024, 14:50

                            @Jolly

                            My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 16:04 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                            @Jolly

                            My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                            We shall see. I know there’s a lot more “garbage” in PA than there are Puerto Ricans.

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 18:34 last edited by
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                              So here’s Nate’s final numbers and it’s a little confusing. They ran the model 80K times and Kamala won 40,012 of them. He points out that means nothing. He could have run it another 80K times and Trump would have winning… no statistical difference between 40,012 and 39,988…

                              But the weird thing is that looking at state by state modeling, it has Trump winning PA and the Sunbelt. Game over..

                              https://www.natesilver.net/p/a-random-number-generator-determined

                              The Brad

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 20:56 last edited by
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                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 22:59 last edited by
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                                  And they all came back positive.

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    5 Nov 2024, 11:49

                                    Interesting. From Nate.

                                    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:24 last edited by
                                    #220

                                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                    Interesting. From Nate.

                                    The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                    The largest Puerto Rican community in the continental US. Trump flipped it.
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                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:29 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Jun 2024, 02:30
                                      #221

                                      So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        6 Nov 2024, 02:29

                                        So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:42 last edited by
                                        #222

                                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                        So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                        Maybe.

                                        Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                        Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                        Which is fine by me.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 6 Nov 2024, 02:45 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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