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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Interesting. From Nate.

        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

        Interesting. From Nate.

        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

        And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

        But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

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          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of unmarried women voters due to Dobbs.

          FIFYNNTTM

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

            Biden won it 5-0 in 2020.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

              Interesting. From Nate.

              The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

              And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

              But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

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              @Jolly

              My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Jolly

                My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

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                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                @Jolly

                My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                We shall see. I know there’s a lot more “garbage” in PA than there are Puerto Ricans.

                The Brad

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                  So here’s Nate’s final numbers and it’s a little confusing. They ran the model 80K times and Kamala won 40,012 of them. He points out that means nothing. He could have run it another 80K times and Trump would have winning… no statistical difference between 40,012 and 39,988…

                  But the weird thing is that looking at state by state modeling, it has Trump winning PA and the Sunbelt. Game over..

                  https://www.natesilver.net/p/a-random-number-generator-determined

                  The Brad

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                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      And they all came back positive.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Interesting. From Nate.

                        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                        Interesting. From Nate.

                        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                        The largest Puerto Rican community in the continental US. Trump flipped it.
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                        The Brad

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                          So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

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                            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                            So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                            Maybe.

                            Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                            Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                            Which is fine by me.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Betting markets are now 80% for Trump winning the electoral college. Started the night in the high 50s.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                  So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                  Maybe.

                                  Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                  Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                  Which is fine by me.

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                                  @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                  So if she’s going to pull it off it’ll have to be due to her increased strength with whites generally and with women in particular. Relative to Biden.

                                  Maybe.

                                  Initial numbers show her doing better in some places, worse in others

                                  Maybe we'll wind up 279-279.

                                  Which is fine by me.

                                  Really? I’m seeing very few places where she is outperforming Biden.

                                  The Brad

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                                    Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

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                                      Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

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                                      @kluurs said in It’s starting:

                                      Just eyeballing things, Trump seems safe to get around 250 w/o real effort. It may be PA that decides this thing.

                                      Though DDHQ called Virginia for Harris, there's some question about that being premature.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        85% for Trump winning now on the betting market I'm following. Kamala better hope lots of dumb money is flowing in.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Any chance we see MI, WI, PA called tonight? Because it's come down to those. (big surprise)

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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