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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

    Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

    That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

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      Seth's final analysis:

      Link to video

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        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

        Is that the Selzer poll?

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        #202

        @George-K said in It’s starting:

        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

        Is that the Selzer poll?

        I believe so. See my post #186

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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          #203

          @Jolly said in It’s starting:

          lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

          He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

            lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

            He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

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            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

            lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

            He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

            People who want to last working for PResident Trump learn to tell him what he wants to hear.

            Otherwise, they will not be long working for him.

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              jon-nyc
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              #205

              Such a good quality in a leader.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Well, today we'll see...

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #207

                  Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #209

                      Interesting. From Nate.

                      The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        jon-nyc
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            Interesting. From Nate.

                            The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                            #212

                            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                            Interesting. From Nate.

                            The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                            And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                            But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

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                              @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                              My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of unmarried women voters due to Dobbs.

                              FIFYNNTTM

                              The Brad

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                                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                Biden won it 5-0 in 2020.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                  Interesting. From Nate.

                                  The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                  And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                                  But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @Jolly

                                  My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Jolly

                                    My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                    @Jolly

                                    My understanding is the comment was all anyone talked about on Spanish language radio the next day. You would have trouble finding a Latino that didn’t hear about it.

                                    We shall see. I know there’s a lot more “garbage” in PA than there are Puerto Ricans.

                                    The Brad

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                                      So here’s Nate’s final numbers and it’s a little confusing. They ran the model 80K times and Kamala won 40,012 of them. He points out that means nothing. He could have run it another 80K times and Trump would have winning… no statistical difference between 40,012 and 39,988…

                                      But the weird thing is that looking at state by state modeling, it has Trump winning PA and the Sunbelt. Game over..

                                      https://www.natesilver.net/p/a-random-number-generator-determined

                                      The Brad

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                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          And they all came back positive.

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