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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #194

    Internals are typically weighted towards the boss and can be far worse in accuracy than the published polls, but I can’t help but wonder what the internals are looking like to influence their decisions. Kamala has completely shifted again the last two days and hasn’t even mentioned Trump’s name once.

    Now that could be the strategy from the beginning. Start with joy, then paint Trump as Hitler, then close positive… But it feels more like switching tactics since the last one didn’t work.

    The Brad

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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        George K
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        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

        Is that the Selzer poll?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #197

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

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            @Mik said in It’s starting:

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            LOL. I told Mrs. George the same thing about 2 hours ago.

            I didn't, however, sing.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Offline
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              #199

              Yer not a redhead either.

              A man’s got to know his limitations.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #200

                https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

                Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

                That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

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                  Seth's final analysis:

                  Link to video

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                    The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                    Is that the Selzer poll?

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                    #202

                    @George-K said in It’s starting:

                    @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                    The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                    Is that the Selzer poll?

                    I believe so. See my post #186

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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                      @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                      lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                      He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                        lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                        He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

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                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                        lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                        He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                        People who want to last working for PResident Trump learn to tell him what he wants to hear.

                        Otherwise, they will not be long working for him.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          Such a good quality in a leader.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Well, today we'll see...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #207

                              Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Interesting. From Nate.

                                  The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #211

                                      My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Interesting. From Nate.

                                        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

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                                        #212

                                        @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                        Interesting. From Nate.

                                        The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                        And that's how the media puts it's fingers on the scale. I doubt Trump vetted said comedian personally. The Trump Campaign issued a statement during the rally, disavowing that joke.

                                        But instead of reporting on the crowd, the enthusiasm of the people in MSG or any points the different speakers made, most of the media focused on the Nazi rally of years past or the PR joke.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                                          @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of unmarried women voters due to Dobbs.

                                          FIFYNNTTM

                                          The Brad

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