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    Copper
    wrote on 4 Nov 2024, 19:39 last edited by
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    Who benefits from polls with false information?

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      Jolly
      wrote on 4 Nov 2024, 21:34 last edited by
      #193

      Kamala-lama-ding-dong.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 4 Nov 2024, 22:39 last edited by LuFins Dad 11 Apr 2024, 22:40
        #194

        Internals are typically weighted towards the boss and can be far worse in accuracy than the published polls, but I can’t help but wonder what the internals are looking like to influence their decisions. Kamala has completely shifted again the last two days and hasn’t even mentioned Trump’s name once.

        Now that could be the strategy from the beginning. Start with joy, then paint Trump as Hitler, then close positive… But it feels more like switching tactics since the last one didn’t work.

        The Brad

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          Jolly
          wrote on 4 Nov 2024, 23:40 last edited by
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          The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            4 Nov 2024, 23:40

            The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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            George K
            wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 00:27 last edited by
            #196

            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

            The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

            Is that the Selzer poll?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 02:09 last edited by
              #197

              IMG_4623.jpeg

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                5 Nov 2024, 02:09

                IMG_4623.jpeg

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                George K
                wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 02:18 last edited by
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                @Mik said in It’s starting:

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                LOL. I told Mrs. George the same thing about 2 hours ago.

                I didn't, however, sing.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 02:52 last edited by
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                  Yer not a redhead either.

                  A man’s got to know his limitations.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 06:10 last edited by
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                    https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

                    Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

                    That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

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                      Axtremus
                      wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 06:29 last edited by
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                      Seth's final analysis:

                      Link to video

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                      • G George K
                        5 Nov 2024, 00:27

                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                        Is that the Selzer poll?

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:14 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in It’s starting:

                        @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                        The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                        Is that the Selzer poll?

                        I believe so. See my post #186

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                          4 Nov 2024, 23:40

                          The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:17 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                          lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                          He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            5 Nov 2024, 10:17

                            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                            lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                            He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:18 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                            lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                            He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                            People who want to last working for PResident Trump learn to tell him what he wants to hear.

                            Otherwise, they will not be long working for him.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 10:19 last edited by
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                              Such a good quality in a leader.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:26 last edited by
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                                Well, today we'll see...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:34 last edited by
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                                  Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:46 last edited by
                                    #208

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:49 last edited by
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                                      Interesting. From Nate.

                                      The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:53 last edited by
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                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 5 Nov 2024, 11:56 last edited by
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                                          My gut still says Trump unless there’s a surge of women voters due to Dobbs.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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