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  • HoraceH Offline
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    #190

    Paywall.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      Paywall.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      #191

      @Horace said in It’s starting:

      Paywall.

      That parts not behind the paywall. Here’s a sheet with the influences for the National Popular Vote Count- https://static.dwcdn.net/data/6dLqU.csv

      Here’s PA - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/uyZgi.csv

      Michigan - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/p0MR1.csv

      AZ - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/2TzV1.csv

      NV - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/FwSWu.csv

      NC - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/LW63I.csv

      GA - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/zLfhh.csv

      WI - https://static.dwcdn.net/data/PMbPp.csv

      It’s all useless though. Either all the polls have for the first time in history gotten EVERYTHING absolutely correct (which has never happened once by even one pollster) or they are all very flawed and have p-hacked their polls to show a 50/50 shot. The fact that there are no outliers at all strongly indicate the latter.

      I will lay out a moderate bottle of whiskey that the results are well outside the margin of error. 4% separation in the swing states or more.

      The Brad

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      • CopperC Offline
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        #192

        Who benefits from polls with false information?

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #193

          Kamala-lama-ding-dong.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            #194

            Internals are typically weighted towards the boss and can be far worse in accuracy than the published polls, but I can’t help but wonder what the internals are looking like to influence their decisions. Kamala has completely shifted again the last two days and hasn’t even mentioned Trump’s name once.

            Now that could be the strategy from the beginning. Start with joy, then paint Trump as Hitler, then close positive… But it feels more like switching tactics since the last one didn’t work.

            The Brad

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                Is that the Selzer poll?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  IMG_4623.jpeg

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

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                    @Mik said in It’s starting:

                    IMG_4623.jpeg

                    LOL. I told Mrs. George the same thing about 2 hours ago.

                    I didn't, however, sing.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      #199

                      Yer not a redhead either.

                      A man’s got to know his limitations.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

                        Last and final update: 12:30 a.m., Tuesday, November 5. Happy Election Day! At exactly midnight on Tuesday, we ran our simulation model for the final time in this election cycle. Out of 80,000 simulations, Kamala Harris won in 40,012 (50.015%) cases.

                        That's Nate Silver's "pencils down" final answer for who his model predict will win the 2024 presidential election.

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                          Axtremus
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                          Seth's final analysis:

                          Link to video

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                            The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                            Is that the Selzer poll?

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                            @George-K said in It’s starting:

                            @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                            The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa

                            Is that the Selzer poll?

                            I believe so. See my post #186

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              The last poll that showed Harris up in Iowa, conflicted with Trump's internal polling. Trump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                              lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                              He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                                He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

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                                @jon-nyc said in It’s starting:

                                @Jolly said in It’s starting:

                                lTrump said his internal polling showed him almost 10 up in Iowa.

                                He also said polls show 92% of people thought he won the debate.

                                People who want to last working for PResident Trump learn to tell him what he wants to hear.

                                Otherwise, they will not be long working for him.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #205

                                  Such a good quality in a leader.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
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                                    #206

                                    Well, today we'll see...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #207

                                      Today? Damn you’re optimistic.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #208

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #209

                                          Interesting. From Nate.

                                          The Univision poll I referenced earlier, exclusively of Latino voters in Pennsylvania, showed her with a 64-30 lead, much better than she’s polled for most of the year in crosstabs of Hispanic voters and also better than Biden in 2020. And for its climactic closing event at Madison Square Garden, the Trump campaign decided to feature a comedian who called Puerto Rico a “floating island of garbage”. The Hispanic population in Pennsylvania has an outsized number of Puerto Ricans.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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