The Ten Commandments Required

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The Ten Commandments Required:

I don’t see how it could help but improve however marginally.

I'm sure it would help every bit as much as putting health warnings on social media platforms.

[xenon]

@Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

TRIGGER WARNING!!!

In case y'all haven't read them lately...

I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

6 seems pretty restrictive. I can't imagine ancient societies thinking capital punishment or killing in war was wrong.

[89th]

@George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

That’s what cracks me up. I saw the video and it’s a bit of a stretch… but nonetheless, Trump exhibits SO many anti-Christian behaviors it’s remarkable how many church going folks put him on a pedestal. Lying, boastful, prideful, stealing, adultery, etc.

[Jolly]

φονεύσεις

That would have been the word used in the Septuagint in Exodus 20:13. Which also is the shortest commandment.

KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

[bachophile]

If it’s any help, the Hebrew is “murder”. “ Kill”would be a different verb as it is in English.

[Doctor Phibes]

Murder is something I've always tried to avoid taking part in. We actually didn't need a sign up at our school to point out that this was frowned upon, but I guess you chaps might need more of a reminder, what with everything.

Maybe there should be a lot more signs. 'Thou shalt not pee in they pants!', 'Thou shalt not fiddle about with thyself, even whilst ye attractive Miss Walsh is teaching thee ye olde trigonometree'

It couldn't hurt, right?

[Mik]

@Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point.

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

And your point is?

[Axtremus]

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

And your point is?

That the Louisiana legislature deliberately mean "kill" rather than "murder" in the law.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

And your point is?

That the Louisiana legislature deliberately mean "kill" rather than "murder" in the law.

Why don't you ask them?

https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/HowDoI.aspx

[Doctor Phibes]

@Mik said in The Ten Commandments Required:

@Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point.

Well, these guys are focusing on the apparent mis-translation of the original text by renowned witch-obsessed Scottish homosexual King James I, so I figured any old bollocks was open to discussion.

[Mik]

Isn't it always?

[jon-nyc]

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

Won't fly, the Louisiana law explicitly specifies the text that must be displayed.

[jon-nyc]

After being educated by Advisory Opinions….

The case isn’t as much of a slam dunk as I thought because the praying football coach case did strike down the old ‘Lemon test’ (named for a court case) that had invalidated similar laws in the past.

Both Sarah and David think Louisiana loses in the end though. And if they win a similar law replacing the Ten Commandments with the five pillars of Islam would also be allowed.

Go to about 41:30 in the most recent AO if you’re interested in details.

[bachophile]

@jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

Content in the realization that I’m the only one here that can read that.

[Jolly]

@bachophile Ok, question : Do we really know what the vowels are in ancient Hebrew?

[bachophile]

Vowels are a later addition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_diacritics

I can’t say if Biblical Hebrew sounded the same, but the text is readily apparent and understandable

[George K]

So how did that Hungarian composer spell his name again?