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The Ten Commandments Required

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    TRIGGER WARNING!!!

    In case y'all haven't read them lately...

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    I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

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    @Aqua-Letifer said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

    TRIGGER WARNING!!!

    In case y'all haven't read them lately...

    alt text

    I'd quibble over the order but, meh.

    6 seems pretty restrictive. I can't imagine ancient societies thinking capital punishment or killing in war was wrong.

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    • George KG George K

      I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

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      @George-K said in The Ten Commandments Required:

      I believe it was the "Lincoln Project" who posted a video showing how Trump has broken each of the 10.

      That’s what cracks me up. I saw the video and it’s a bit of a stretch… but nonetheless, Trump exhibits SO many anti-Christian behaviors it’s remarkable how many church going folks put him on a pedestal. Lying, boastful, prideful, stealing, adultery, etc.

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        φονεύσεις

        That would have been the word used in the Septuagint in Exodus 20:13. Which also is the shortest commandment.

        KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          If it’s any help, the Hebrew is “murder”. “ Kill”would be a different verb as it is in English.

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            Murder is something I've always tried to avoid taking part in. We actually didn't need a sign up at our school to point out that this was frowned upon, but I guess you chaps might need more of a reminder, what with everything.

            Maybe there should be a lot more signs. 'Thou shalt not pee in they pants!', 'Thou shalt not fiddle about with thyself, even whilst ye attractive Miss Walsh is teaching thee ye olde trigonometree'

            It couldn't hurt, right?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              Murder is something I've always tried to avoid taking part in. We actually didn't need a sign up at our school to point out that this was frowned upon, but I guess you chaps might need more of a reminder, what with everything.

              Maybe there should be a lot more signs. 'Thou shalt not pee in they pants!', 'Thou shalt not fiddle about with thyself, even whilst ye attractive Miss Walsh is teaching thee ye olde trigonometree'

              It couldn't hurt, right?

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              @Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point. 😄

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                φονεύσεις

                That would have been the word used in the Septuagint in Exodus 20:13. Which also is the shortest commandment.

                KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

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                #43

                @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                  KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                  Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

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                  @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                  @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                  KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                  Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

                  And your point is?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                    Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

                    And your point is?

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                    Axtremus
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                    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                    KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                    Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

                    And your point is?

                    That the Louisiana legislature deliberately mean "kill" rather than "murder" in the law.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                      Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

                      And your point is?

                      That the Louisiana legislature deliberately mean "kill" rather than "murder" in the law.

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                      @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      @Axtremus said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      @Jolly said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                      KJV translated it as "kill". It's actually "murder".

                      Yet the Louisiana law uses the word "kill" anyway.

                      And your point is?

                      That the Louisiana legislature deliberately mean "kill" rather than "murder" in the law.

                      Why don't you ask them?

                      https://www.legis.la.gov/legis/HowDoI.aspx

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point. 😄

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                        @Mik said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                        @Doctor-Phibes that was Ax-like in its missing of the point. 😄

                        Well, these guys are focusing on the apparent mis-translation of the original text by renowned witch-obsessed Scottish homosexual King James I, so I figured any old bollocks was open to discussion.

                        I was only joking

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                          Isn't it always? 😄

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            jon-nyc
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                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                              @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

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                              Won't fly, the Louisiana law explicitly specifies the text that must be displayed.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                After being educated by Advisory Opinions….

                                The case isn’t as much of a slam dunk as I thought because the praying football coach case did strike down the old ‘Lemon test’ (named for a court case) that had invalidated similar laws in the past.

                                Both Sarah and David think Louisiana loses in the end though. And if they win a similar law replacing the Ten Commandments with the five pillars of Islam would also be allowed.

                                Go to about 41:30 in the most recent AO if you’re interested in details.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                  @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

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                                  Content in the realization that I’m the only one here that can read that.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The Ten Commandments Required:

                                    IMG_7714.jpeg

                                    Content in the realization that I’m the only one here that can read that.

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                                    @bachophile Ok, question : Do we really know what the vowels are in ancient Hebrew?

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      bachophile
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                                      #54

                                      Vowels are a later addition

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_diacritics

                                      I can’t say if Biblical Hebrew sounded the same, but the text is readily apparent and understandable

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                                        So how did that Hungarian composer spell his name again?

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          So how did that Hungarian composer spell his name again?

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                                          Renauda
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                                          @George-K

                                          Which one? Lszt, Brtk, Kdl or Lgt?

                                          Elbows up!

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