Alcohol Hypocrisy
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@Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.
I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.
In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.
And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.
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@Jolly said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
....most alcohol consumption is not done to become drunk.
Korea (and other countries in North Asia) seems to be an exception. Most Koreans cannot "hold" liquor very well, but they drink until they are falling down.
My explanation is that society is very straight and conforming. If you are drinking, you can do goofy stuff and no one will think anything of it and it will be "accepted". Maybe accepted is not the correct word, but no one will say anything. The next morning at the office, it will be business as usual.
I was at a get together with a group of Japanese one time, and the head Japanese guy ended up falling asleep in the lap of waitress/hostess. Next morning, it was not mentioned, and things carried on as normal.
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@jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.
Every Monday I'm ready to do just that. Then
TuesdayFriday comes around and the siren song of wonderful IPA's starts up again. -
@Copper said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
@Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.
I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.
In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.
And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.
I'll top that...First lab I worked in, was an assault on the senses. Floor model centrifuges so loud you needed earplugs and a constant barroom haze from the cigarettes (mostly Marlboro, Winstons and Camel w/filters).
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@jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.
I sleep so much better when I haven't had anything to drink. It's common sense, but wow I feel great in the morning. The problem is usually by 9 or 10pm I'm ready for a drink to unwind after a long day of working and juggling 3 kids, and the other problem is once I've had one I very easily get a 2nd or 3rd which tastes great at the time, but then I regret it in the morning when I feel off.
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Never understood having a drink to unwind. Might drink a cold beer while mowing or with fried seafood. Will occasionally sip on some bourbon or a little Crown Royale, but that's rare. Can't understand the appeal of fermented grape juice.
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I like the social aspect of stopping at a local pub for a drink. Unfortunately it turns into 2-3 all too easily.
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I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”
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In this case self-described alcoholic. But I liked him.
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@George-K said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
@Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.
Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.
I start three hours before I pass out.
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Show us some fucking effort already. I start 30m before I pass out.
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@Klaus said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:
People who are dependent on alcohol rarely show signs of being drunk. They also often don't drink to become drunk but to change the way they feel. To get rid of anxiety. Boredom. Depression. Sadness. The drunkards who sleep under the bridge are only a tiny fraction of those with alcohol problems.
I have only really paid attention to this in the last two years or so, but I think almost everyone knows a couple of people who drink "too much". The same doesn't hold for other drugs, I think.
Exactly. We rarely drink alcohol any more, (I’m currently on no alcohol since January due to meds for a herniated disc) but even before that, for me it was less than one drink a week.( I do drink an N/A beer with dinner several times a week, they make some really nice tasting ones now.) I know a lot of people who manage productive lives, but they have a glass of wine or beer (or two) pretty much every night with dinner. You don’t have to be a falling down drunk to be dependent on that little bit of relaxation it gives you. I didn’t really start to notice it -how many people self medicate with alcohol, and how accepted (and expected) it is in society until the last several years when I really started limiting my consumption. (And I never was a big drinker) I have and have had family members who I consider functional alcoholics. Nobody would ever call them alcoholics, but they absolutely depend on those dinnertime drinks.
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This one is nice, the N/A Black Butte Porter.
https://damntastybeer.com/products/black-butte-non-alcoholicAnd blue moon makes an NA that is light and citrusy.