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Alcohol Hypocrisy

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • MikM Offline
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      Yep. We've cut way, way back on it. Moderation claims another victim.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • KlausK Klaus

        That said, these days there are good alternatives, once one gets rid of prejudices.

        0% alcohol beer can be awesome, for instance.

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        @Klaus said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

        0% alcohol beer can be awesome, for instance.

        Agreed. Guinness 0 is such. Actually tastes like real beer - closer to an English bitter IMO, although Phibes might not agree.

        Two thirds the price of Guinness Draught, they can’t keep it on the store shelves it’s become that popular here since it came out late last year.

        Elbows up!

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @George-K said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

          I consume alcohol pretty regularly, as you know. BUT, if I feel any sign of intoxication, I stop. I've always found it unpleasant.

          That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately. But as these things go, in order to keep feeling that, you have to keep increasing your BAC. Holding it steady does nothing.

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          @Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

          That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.

          I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.

          In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.

          And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @Klaus said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

            Since I have a partner who doesn't drink, I have become much more aware of how deeply alcohol drinking is part of the culture and is treated very differently from other drugs.

            True, but most alcohol consumption is not done to become drunk. Maybe marijuana use falls into the same category. Besides those, however, aren't most drugs such as street fentanyl, crack, meth or heroin, expressly done for excess?

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            @Jolly said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

            ....most alcohol consumption is not done to become drunk.

            Korea (and other countries in North Asia) seems to be an exception. Most Koreans cannot "hold" liquor very well, but they drink until they are falling down.

            My explanation is that society is very straight and conforming. If you are drinking, you can do goofy stuff and no one will think anything of it and it will be "accepted". Maybe accepted is not the correct word, but no one will say anything. The next morning at the office, it will be business as usual.

            I was at a get together with a group of Japanese one time, and the head Japanese guy ended up falling asleep in the lap of waitress/hostess. Next morning, it was not mentioned, and things carried on as normal.

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              Here in the west, you're held to everything you do regardless of drunken status. Though I wasn't fired that time my boss called the cops on me when he thought I'd been drinking. He was on his way out anyway.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

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                @jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

                Every Monday I'm ready to do just that. Then Tuesday Friday comes around and the siren song of wonderful IPA's starts up again.

                I was only joking

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                  That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.

                  I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.

                  In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.

                  And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.

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                  @Copper said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                  @Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                  That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.

                  I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.

                  In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.

                  And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.

                  I'll top that...First lab I worked in, was an assault on the senses. Floor model centrifuges so loud you needed earplugs and a constant barroom haze from the cigarettes (mostly Marlboro, Winstons and Camel w/filters).

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                    Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

                    I sleep so much better when I haven't had anything to drink. It's common sense, but wow I feel great in the morning. The problem is usually by 9 or 10pm I'm ready for a drink to unwind after a long day of working and juggling 3 kids, and the other problem is once I've had one I very easily get a 2nd or 3rd which tastes great at the time, but then I regret it in the morning when I feel off.

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                      Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

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                        @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                        Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                        Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Never understood having a drink to unwind. Might drink a cold beer while mowing or with fried seafood. Will occasionally sip on some bourbon or a little Crown Royale, but that's rare. Can't understand the appeal of fermented grape juice.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I like the social aspect of stopping at a local pub for a drink. Unfortunately it turns into 2-3 all too easily.

                            The Brad

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                              I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

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                                @jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

                                An alcoholic is someone whom you don't like who drinks more than you do.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  In this case self-described alcoholic. But I liked him.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                    Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                                    Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

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                                    @George-K said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                    @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                    Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                                    Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

                                    I start three hours before I pass out.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Show us some fucking effort already. I start 30m before I pass out.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        I'm enjoying a Spotted Cow right now...

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                                          Some coworkers were in Madison last week drinking Spotted Cows. Can’t get it this side of the Cheddar Curtain.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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