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Alcohol Hypocrisy

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  • CopperC Copper

    @Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

    That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.

    I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.

    In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.

    And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.

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    @Copper said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

    @Horace said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

    That would be one swallow of hard liquor for me. I would feel the mental effects immediately.

    I think that is a matter of age, and times have changed too.

    In college drinking 10-20 beers in a day or long night wasn't unusual. But now a couple will put me to sleep.

    And of course drinking and smoking were more acceptable back then. I tell young people that we could smoke in class while in college, and lots of people did. It is hard to believe.

    I'll top that...First lab I worked in, was an assault on the senses. Floor model centrifuges so loud you needed earplugs and a constant barroom haze from the cigarettes (mostly Marlboro, Winstons and Camel w/filters).

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

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      @jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

      Reducing alcohol consumption is probably one of the simplest interventions people can make to improve health. I get that it’s not easy for everyone in practice.

      I sleep so much better when I haven't had anything to drink. It's common sense, but wow I feel great in the morning. The problem is usually by 9 or 10pm I'm ready for a drink to unwind after a long day of working and juggling 3 kids, and the other problem is once I've had one I very easily get a 2nd or 3rd which tastes great at the time, but then I regret it in the morning when I feel off.

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        Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

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          @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

          Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

          Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Never understood having a drink to unwind. Might drink a cold beer while mowing or with fried seafood. Will occasionally sip on some bourbon or a little Crown Royale, but that's rare. Can't understand the appeal of fermented grape juice.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              I like the social aspect of stopping at a local pub for a drink. Unfortunately it turns into 2-3 all too easily.

              The Brad

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                I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

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                  @jon-nyc said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                  I once heard an alcoholic say “one’s too many and ten’s not enough.”

                  An alcoholic is someone whom you don't like who drinks more than you do.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    In this case self-described alcoholic. But I liked him.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                      Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                      Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

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                      @George-K said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                      @Mik said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                      Yeah, you need to stop three hours before you sleep.

                      Shit, I start three hours before I sleep.

                      I start three hours before I pass out.

                      I was only joking

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                        Show us some fucking effort already. I start 30m before I pass out.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          I'm enjoying a Spotted Cow right now...

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                            Some coworkers were in Madison last week drinking Spotted Cows. Can’t get it this side of the Cheddar Curtain.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              It's only for us 🧀 cheeseheads.

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Jolly said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                True, but most alcohol consumption is not done to become drunk.

                                People who are dependent on alcohol rarely show signs of being drunk. They also often don't drink to become drunk but to change the way they feel. To get rid of anxiety. Boredom. Depression. Sadness. The drunkards who sleep under the bridge are only a tiny fraction of those with alcohol problems.

                                I have only really paid attention to this in the last two years or so, but I think almost everyone knows a couple of people who drink "too much". The same doesn't hold for other drugs, I think.

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                                @Klaus said in Alcohol Hypocrisy:

                                People who are dependent on alcohol rarely show signs of being drunk. They also often don't drink to become drunk but to change the way they feel. To get rid of anxiety. Boredom. Depression. Sadness. The drunkards who sleep under the bridge are only a tiny fraction of those with alcohol problems.

                                I have only really paid attention to this in the last two years or so, but I think almost everyone knows a couple of people who drink "too much". The same doesn't hold for other drugs, I think.

                                Exactly. We rarely drink alcohol any more, (I’m currently on no alcohol since January due to meds for a herniated disc) but even before that, for me it was less than one drink a week.( I do drink an N/A beer with dinner several times a week, they make some really nice tasting ones now.) I know a lot of people who manage productive lives, but they have a glass of wine or beer (or two) pretty much every night with dinner. You don’t have to be a falling down drunk to be dependent on that little bit of relaxation it gives you. I didn’t really start to notice it -how many people self medicate with alcohol, and how accepted (and expected) it is in society until the last several years when I really started limiting my consumption. (And I never was a big drinker) I have and have had family members who I consider functional alcoholics. Nobody would ever call them alcoholics, but they absolutely depend on those dinnertime drinks.

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                                  This one is nice, the N/A Black Butte Porter.
                                  https://damntastybeer.com/products/black-butte-non-alcoholic

                                  And blue moon makes an NA that is light and citrusy.

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