The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today

[George K]

@Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

55 pages of judge instructions for the jury.

Not all that unusual.

Instructions that they [jury] did not get a copy of, that were read to them by the judge.

If they forget, can they request the judge to return and read them again?

And again.

And again..

[Jolly]

And they have.

[Horace]

55 pages is not unreasonable for a bureaucratic thing like jury instructions. Again not unreasonable to consider boilerplate.

[jon-nyc]

@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

Misleading. His instructions make sense. He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime. He’s saying the jury doesn’t have to agree what the underlying crime was, as long as they believe he kniew about it and falsified records because of it. The jury does have to be unanimous that he falsified records with the motivation of covering up a crime.

(In fact, under the law, Trump doesn’t even have to be the one who committed the crime being covered up.)

[Jolly]

If that be the case, a very bad law.

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

[Mik]

Show me the man....

[Jolly]

@George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

@jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

Doesn't matter. It's a political trial. Stefanik has even filed a complaint that the judge was hand-picked.

They don't care about the application of the law, they only care about a conviction. Even knowing that multiple grounds exist for that conviction to be overturned, from a goofy bootstrapping of state law into federal law, selective prosecution, inability to obtain a fair trial, the denial of expert witnesses for the defense, the introduction of non-bearing salacious testimony, the weird jury instructions...It all points to a political show trial.

Americans can only hope that this current season of lawfare backfires spectacularly. Nothing breeds avoidance in American politics as knowing your tactics will get you savaged at the ballot box.

[George K]

[George K]

They have reached a verdict.

[LuFins Dad]

Beat me to it. The Jury requested 20 minutes thirty minutes ago. Merchan is back on the bench. Should be any minute.

[George K]

Guilty on 34 counts.

[LuFins Dad]

Unfrigging believable.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

Unfrigging believable.

Told ya. It's a political trial.

They shredded the law, fixed the trial and pissed on the Constitution.

Payback is hell and the stupid-ass Demonrat zealots have opened a door best left shut.

It's now open season on ex-Presidents.

[Jolly]

And some of you dumb bastards are worried about Trump being a fascist dictator?

Bwhahahahahaha!

Oh, my giddy aunt!

[George K]

Trump gave a little speech. He was unusually quiet, and looked very tired.

[Copper]

There is a bright side.

Clinton and Obama will be going to jail.

[jon-nyc]

Dont worry guys, it’s not over until the Fat Guy goes to Sing Sing.

[George K]

What are the odds that this will be reversed on appeal?

[LuFins Dad]

Still a NY Appellate Court, no? What makes you think it would be any better?