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The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

    Misleading. His instructions make sense. He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime. He’s saying the jury doesn’t have to agree what the underlying crime was, as long as they believe he kniew about it and falsified records because of it. The jury does have to be unanimous that he falsified records with the motivation of covering up a crime.

    (In fact, under the law, Trump doesn’t even have to be the one who committed the crime being covered up.)

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    @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

    He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

    An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

    Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      #144

      Show me the man....

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • George KG George K

        @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

        He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

        An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

        Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

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        Jolly
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        #145

        @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

        @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

        He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

        An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

        Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

        Doesn't matter. It's a political trial. Stefanik has even filed a complaint that the judge was hand-picked.

        They don't care about the application of the law, they only care about a conviction. Even knowing that multiple grounds exist for that conviction to be overturned, from a goofy bootstrapping of state law into federal law, selective prosecution, inability to obtain a fair trial, the denial of expert witnesses for the defense, the introduction of non-bearing salacious testimony, the weird jury instructions...It all points to a political show trial.

        Americans can only hope that this current season of lawfare backfires spectacularly. Nothing breeds avoidance in American politics as knowing your tactics will get you savaged at the ballot box.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          George K
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          #146

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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #147

            They have reached a verdict.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              #148

              Beat me to it. The Jury requested 20 minutes thirty minutes ago. Merchan is back on the bench. Should be any minute.

              The Brad

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #149

                Guilty on 34 counts.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #150

                  Unfrigging believable.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Unfrigging believable.

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                    Jolly
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                    #151

                    @LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                    Unfrigging believable.

                    Told ya. It's a political trial.

                    They shredded the law, fixed the trial and pissed on the Constitution.

                    Payback is hell and the stupid-ass Demonrat zealots have opened a door best left shut.

                    It's now open season on ex-Presidents.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Jolly
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                      #152

                      And some of you dumb bastards are worried about Trump being a fascist dictator?

                      Bwhahahahahaha!

                      Oh, my giddy aunt! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #153

                        Trump gave a little speech. He was unusually quiet, and looked very tired.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • CopperC Offline
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                          Copper
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                          #154

                          There is a bright side.

                          Clinton and Obama will be going to jail.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            Dont worry guys, it’s not over until the Fat Guy goes to Sing Sing.

                            You were warned.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #156

                              What are the odds that this will be reversed on appeal?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                LuFins Dad
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                                Still a NY Appellate Court, no? What makes you think it would be any better?

                                The Brad

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                                  When do the mostly peaceful riots start?

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #159

                                    After sentencing I imagine.

                                    Do we know when that is?

                                    You were warned.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      After sentencing I imagine.

                                      Do we know when that is?

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                                      George K
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                                      #160

                                      @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                                      Do we know when that is?

                                      July 11. Two weeks after the 1st debate, and before the RNC convention.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Dont worry guys, it’s not over until the Fat Guy goes to Sing Sing.

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                                        Dont worry guys, it’s not over until the Fat Guy goes to Sing Sing.

                                        This guy?

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                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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