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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #132

    Merchan needs to be disbarred.

    Ideally, he needs to go to jail.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Online
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #133

      Mr. Merchan won't get another chance.

      This is his big day.

      Go for it.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Merchan needs to be disbarred.

        Ideally, he needs to go to jail.

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        George K
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        #134

        @Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

        Merchan needs to be disbarred.

        He will be reversed.

        He will retire, and go down as the first judge to convict a former president.

        He will become a commentator on MSNBC and funnel more money to his daughter.

        He DGAF.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          wrote on last edited by
          #135

          Further proof of the corruption of our justice system.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            Further proof of the corruption of our justice system.

            JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
            wrote on last edited by
            #136

            @Mik said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

            Further proof of the corruption of our justice system.

            Yessir.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #137

              55 pages of judge instructions for the jury. Instructions that they [jury] did not get a copy of, that were read to them by the judge.

              Jeez...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                55 pages of judge instructions for the jury. Instructions that they [jury] did not get a copy of, that were read to them by the judge.

                Jeez...

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by George K
                #138

                @Jolly said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                55 pages of judge instructions for the jury.

                Not all that unusual.

                Instructions that they [jury] did not get a copy of, that were read to them by the judge.

                If they forget, can they request the judge to return and read them again?

                And again.

                And again..

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #139

                  And they have.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #140

                    55 pages is not unreasonable for a bureaucratic thing like jury instructions. Again not unreasonable to consider boilerplate.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • George KG George K

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #141

                      @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                      Misleading. His instructions make sense. He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime. He’s saying the jury doesn’t have to agree what the underlying crime was, as long as they believe he kniew about it and falsified records because of it. The jury does have to be unanimous that he falsified records with the motivation of covering up a crime.

                      (In fact, under the law, Trump doesn’t even have to be the one who committed the crime being covered up.)

                      You were warned.

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #142

                        If that be the case, a very bad law.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                          Misleading. His instructions make sense. He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime. He’s saying the jury doesn’t have to agree what the underlying crime was, as long as they believe he kniew about it and falsified records because of it. The jury does have to be unanimous that he falsified records with the motivation of covering up a crime.

                          (In fact, under the law, Trump doesn’t even have to be the one who committed the crime being covered up.)

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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #143

                          @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                          He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

                          An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

                          Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #144

                            Show me the man....

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                              He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

                              An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

                              Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by Jolly
                              #145

                              @George-K said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                              @jon-nyc said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                              He’s charged with falsifying business records to cover up a crime.

                              An unspecified crime. Has that even been revealed in testimony or evidence?

                              Would any crime do? Murder? Robbing a bank? Jaywalking?

                              Doesn't matter. It's a political trial. Stefanik has even filed a complaint that the judge was hand-picked.

                              They don't care about the application of the law, they only care about a conviction. Even knowing that multiple grounds exist for that conviction to be overturned, from a goofy bootstrapping of state law into federal law, selective prosecution, inability to obtain a fair trial, the denial of expert witnesses for the defense, the introduction of non-bearing salacious testimony, the weird jury instructions...It all points to a political show trial.

                              Americans can only hope that this current season of lawfare backfires spectacularly. Nothing breeds avoidance in American politics as knowing your tactics will get you savaged at the ballot box.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #146

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #147

                                  They have reached a verdict.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    #148

                                    Beat me to it. The Jury requested 20 minutes thirty minutes ago. Merchan is back on the bench. Should be any minute.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by George K
                                      #149

                                      Guilty on 34 counts.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #150

                                        Unfrigging believable.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          Unfrigging believable.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by Jolly
                                          #151

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in The Trump "Hush Money" Trial starts today:

                                          Unfrigging believable.

                                          Told ya. It's a political trial.

                                          They shredded the law, fixed the trial and pissed on the Constitution.

                                          Payback is hell and the stupid-ass Demonrat zealots have opened a door best left shut.

                                          It's now open season on ex-Presidents.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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