Fetterman's growing on me

[jon-nyc]

Wouldn’t surprise me if he was denied a prime speaking spot and would rather not show up than be just another senator.

[Jolly]

Could be. What does that say about the current state of the party?

[jon-nyc]

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

[LuFins Dad]

I think the Israel thing might be a real sticking point for him.

[Aqua Letifer]

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

[LuFins Dad]

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

[Aqua Letifer]

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

Of course they're not!
He's here at home with us you fiend!

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:

@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:

That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?

I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.

I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?

Doubt it. Aqua seems too attached...

[Mik]

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.

[Jolly]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.

Beg to differ.

I think many American have a shared vision of equality. They don't have a shared version of equity.

Secondly, haven't seen many anti-BLM Americans rioting in the streets or chasing black students off of college campuses.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy.

I think the latter is the impetus, but whenever you take it out on Jewish citizens, not on policymakers, well that's obviously crossing into the former.

EDIT
I also don't think one bucket fits all here.

[Mik]

I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.

Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:

I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.

Yeah, fully agree.

Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.

Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.

We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.

Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.

[Mik]

@Aqua-Letifer yeah, it was intentional.

[Aqua Letifer]

Solid. Props.

[George K]

[LuFins Dad]

Anybody else find it interesting that Fetterman has been extremely quiet in such a heated campaign when his state and his regional home are going to be critical in the upcoming election?

[Mik]

Yes. I wonder if he is disillusioned with his party.

[LuFins Dad]

He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:

He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…

Good politics? Pennsylvania has been registering a lot of Republicans in the last decade. Maybe it's better to be a centrist and enjoy a long career?