Fetterman's growing on me
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I think the Israel thing might be a real sticking point for him.
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That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
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@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
The Brad
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
Of course they're not!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
Doubt it. Aqua seems too attached...
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
Beg to differ.
I think many American have a shared vision of equality. They don't have a shared version of equity.
Secondly, haven't seen many anti-BLM Americans rioting in the streets or chasing black students off of college campuses.
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy.
I think the latter is the impetus, but whenever you take it out on Jewish citizens, not on policymakers, well that's obviously crossing into the former.
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I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
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I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
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@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
@Aqua-Letifer yeah, it was intentional.
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Solid. Props.
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Anybody else find it interesting that Fetterman has been extremely quiet in such a heated campaign when his state and his regional home are going to be critical in the upcoming election?
