Fetterman's growing on me
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
Beg to differ.
I think many American have a shared vision of equality. They don't have a shared version of equity.
Secondly, haven't seen many anti-BLM Americans rioting in the streets or chasing black students off of college campuses.
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy.
I think the latter is the impetus, but whenever you take it out on Jewish citizens, not on policymakers, well that's obviously crossing into the former.
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I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
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I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
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@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
@Aqua-Letifer yeah, it was intentional.
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Solid. Props.
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Anybody else find it interesting that Fetterman has been extremely quiet in such a heated campaign when his state and his regional home are going to be critical in the upcoming election?
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He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…
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He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…
@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:
He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…
Good politics? Pennsylvania has been registering a lot of Republicans in the last decade. Maybe it's better to be a centrist and enjoy a long career?
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Relatively quiet. Not completely quiet.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1092433108919397&set=a.404617784367603
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He’s been campaigning for her a lot and for Casey too. He talks about it on his personal account not his senatorial account.
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it gives me chills to see that the other side thinks highly of one of our slave trading pedophiles. I just knew we can come to the middle!
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I think NS is speaking generally about the view from the right towards most of the left, which is why they are shouting for Epstein’s client list and Diddy’s videos.
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Fetterman might be campaigning for Harris, but it really feels like he’s hedging his bets.
Pennsylvania Democratic Sen. John Fetterman opened up about the state of the presidential race in his key battleground state and called former President Trump’s support there "astonishing" while predicting that Elon Musk’s endorsement is "going to really matter."
"There’s a difference between not understanding, but also acknowledging that it exists," Fetterman told the New York Times in an interview published Saturday morning when asked about enthusiasm for Trump in Pennsylvania. "And anybody who spends time driving around, and you can see the intensity. It’s astonishing."
Fetterman continued, "I was doing an event in Indiana County. Very, very red. And there was a superstore of Trump stuff, and it was a hundred feet long. [There were] dozens of T-shirts and hats and bumper stickers and all kinds of, I mean, it’s like, Where does this all come from? It’s the kind of thing that has taken on its own life. And it’s like something very special exists there. And that doesn’t mean that I admire it. It’s just — it’s real."
Fetterman said he believes Musk, who endorsed Trump and appeared with him at a rally at the site of the first assassination attempt on Trump in Butler, will be appealing to voters in Pennsylvania.
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That's about as close to a good faith understanding of Trump support, as a Democrat would feel comfortable giving. For most TDS sufferers, they are incapable psychologically of generating a good faith understanding of Trump support. For Fetterman, I guess he probably can, but is still constrained by his party affiliation.
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Well, maybe Fetterman is a smarter pol than I gave him credit for being.
Trump said something on Rogan worth noting, and to paraphrase...Politics is a very tough business and the people who last in politics have to be very, very smart people.
He went on to say that lasting applied to the guys with 20+ years in office. Maybe Fetterman wants to be a 20+ year guy...The next Centrist. I dunno...
