Fetterman's growing on me
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 14:39 last edited by
Sure looks like it.
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 15:12 last edited by
Wouldn’t surprise me if he was denied a prime speaking spot and would rather not show up than be just another senator.
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 15:13 last edited by
Could be. What does that say about the current state of the party?
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 15:14 last edited by
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 15:47 last edited by
I think the Israel thing might be a real sticking point for him.
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That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 16:08 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
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@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 16:25 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 16:41 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
Of course they're not!
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 16:41 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Fetterman's growing on me:
@jon-nyc said in Fetterman's growing on me:
That not every junior senator gets a prime speaking spot regardless of how ambitious they are?
I would say that independent of the convention situation, the democratic party has on some level an anti-semitism problem.
I wonder if they are serving bagels at the continental breakfast tables at the hall?
Doubt it. Aqua seems too attached...
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 17:16 last edited by Mik
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 17:23 last edited by@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
Beg to differ.
I think many American have a shared vision of equality. They don't have a shared version of equity.
Secondly, haven't seen many anti-BLM Americans rioting in the streets or chasing black students off of college campuses.
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I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy. But of course it will be interpreted as anti-semitism because that's how it goes. if you don't care for BLM's goals you're a racist.
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 17:49 last edited by Aqua Letifer@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I don't know if it's so much anti-semitism as antagonism toward Israeli conservative policy.
I think the latter is the impetus, but whenever you take it out on Jewish citizens, not on policymakers, well that's obviously crossing into the former.
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 20:44 last edited by Mik
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
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I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY time before the late 20th century Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas. We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 20:55 last edited by@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
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@Mik said in Fetterman's growing on me:
I think the multi-bucket idea works for me too. One COULD hate Jews, but I don't think that label is appropriate for all those who oppose current Israeli policy.
Yeah, fully agree.
Disclaimer - I am not one of them. In ANY century before the 20th Gaza simply would have been wiped off the face of the earth. I think Israel has prosecuted this war quite ethically against cowards who hide behind women and children then claim genocide. They are a scourge to be eradicated. But the civilian deaths are purely the fault of Hamas.
Yeah. I think it's possible Israel has gotten a few things wrong over the past year, but they were attacked. You're not going to have a morally perfect response to that.
We have used kid gloves for far too long to avoid the pearl clutching.
Was that mixed metaphor deliberate? Because it kinda works.
wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 21:01 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer yeah, it was intentional.
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wrote on 19 Aug 2024, 21:20 last edited by
Solid. Props.
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wrote on 13 Oct 2024, 14:46 last edited by
Anybody else find it interesting that Fetterman has been extremely quiet in such a heated campaign when his state and his regional home are going to be critical in the upcoming election?
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wrote on 13 Oct 2024, 14:47 last edited by Mik
Yes. I wonder if he is disillusioned with his party.
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wrote on 13 Oct 2024, 14:49 last edited by
He also has been amazingly silent about the Haitian thing. Remember that his hometown is a 20 minute drive from Charleroi…
