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Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?

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    xenon
    wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 03:38 last edited by
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    What a clown show. Purposely screwing up the government then complaining how screwed up it is.

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 11:32 last edited by
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      Who voted how on the motion to vacate McCarthy from Speakership:

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-vote-mccarthy-speaker-roll-call-oust-democrats-republicans/

      Eight Republicans and 208 Democrats voted to vacate.

      Seven absences, including Pelosi who was in California for Feinstein’s funeral.

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      • X xenon
        4 Oct 2023, 03:38

        What a clown show. Purposely screwing up the government then complaining how screwed up it is.

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        George K
        wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 12:07 last edited by
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        @xenon said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

        What a clown show.

        That comment is an offense to clowns.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • D Doctor Phibes
          4 Oct 2023, 02:04

          If Mickey Mouse gets its, DeSantis is so fucked.

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          89th
          wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 12:15 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

          If Mickey Mouse gets its, DeSantis is so fucked.

          LOL x100

          Also, @LuFins-Dad - good call on the non-irony of Gaetz voting with dems to get something passed.

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            George K
            wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 12:27 last edited by
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            Newt speaks.

            “Kevin McCarthy is one of the most talented leaders I’ve ever worked with. I think that he accomplished an amazing amount while having a small majority” and battling both the Senate and the White House. He called the outcome “tragic.”

            “The University of Georgia Bulldogs is the number one team in the country now. If you started a game, and four of the members of the offensive squad decided they were actually on the Alabama side and begin tackling your own people, you’d probably get them off the field.”

            “Think about what we saw today,” he continued. “Four percent—four percent—[of the Republican caucus] decided they were so morally superior, so intellectually pure, so patriotically better, that they would side with the Democrats. That’s what they did in order to defeat the entire Republican House caucus.” He called the eight Republicans who sided with Democrats “traitors” who should be primaried and “driven out of public life.”

            “They [chose] to go to the other team to cause total chaos.” And instead of focusing on issues that matter to the American people, “You’re gonna get a week or ten days of the media focusing on Republican disarray. It’s an astonishingly destructive behavior by a handful of egocentric people who think they’re superior to 96% of the country.”

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Mik
              wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:13 last edited by
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              Newt, as usual, nails it.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • M Mik
                4 Oct 2023, 13:13

                Newt, as usual, nails it.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:19 last edited by
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                @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                Newt, as usual, nails it.

                I think he's right. I'm astonished the Republicans - well, that small faction - could be that stupid.

                Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  4 Oct 2023, 13:19

                  @Mik said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Newt, as usual, nails it.

                  I think he's right. I'm astonished the Republicans - well, that small faction - could be that stupid.

                  Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:29 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                  Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

                  Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

                  But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

                  Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    4 Oct 2023, 13:29

                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

                    Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

                    But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

                    Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:32 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                    Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

                    Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

                    But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

                    Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

                    He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • J Jolly
                      4 Oct 2023, 13:32

                      @George-K said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      Say what you will about Pelosi, this would not have happened on her side of the aisle.

                      Indeed. She ran a disciplined ship. When someone wanted to vote against her agenda, as long as she had enough votes to guarantee a victory, she'd let the prodigal legislator vote his/her desire, if for no other reason than to save face.

                      But, then there's always payback, which, I'm sure, she expected.

                      Speaking of which, I wonder how much "Target-On-My-Back" Gaetz (et al) will have to endure in the next 15 months. GOP leadership is, undoubtedly unhappy. I'm sure there will be repercussions in committee assignments, etc.

                      He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:34 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                      He represents an 80% Republican district. The best bet will be the congressional investigations already ongoing.

                      One of the rumors is that Gaetz wanted McCarthy out because of those investigations. In fact, McCarthy said so last night, while pointing out that those investigations started before he was Speaker.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        bachophile
                        wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 13:36 last edited by
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                          Mik
                          wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 14:51 last edited by
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                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mccarthy-s-defeat-is-a-victory-for-despotism/ar-AA1hGLTz?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=332f76ddf00b44219b84ee863b69d159&ei=28

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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                            Pence weighs in, and i think he nails it too. This is very bad for the GOP leading into primary season.

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-pence-reacts-to-mccarthy-s-ouster-as-speaker-of-the-house/vi-AA1hEeBb?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4de16432b48e4e568ea4dac7260ba7b5&ei=32

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:27 last edited by
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                              The drumbeat of GOP failure and disorganization continues.

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-average-american-sees-this-and-says-way-to-go-republicans-mike-huckabee/vi-AA1hERLq?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=4de16432b48e4e568ea4dac7260ba7b5&ei=61

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 15:29 last edited by
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                                Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

                                The Brad

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:01 last edited by
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                                  Maybe elect an Independent to be the next Speaker, with votes from both major parties.

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                                    4 Oct 2023, 15:29

                                    Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 17:03 last edited by
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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Will McCarthy be Vacated from Speakership? Who Will Succeed McCarthy?:

                                    Maybe it helps open the door for a moderate 3rd party option? It could also help galvanize the party against the MAGATS.

                                    That is quite possible.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      kluurs
                                      wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:10 last edited by
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                                      Jim Jordan says he’s interested in going for it.

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 18:38 last edited by
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                                        Steve Scalise has also thrown his hat into the ring.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 4 Oct 2023, 22:17 last edited by
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                                          The MAGATs, as y'all so gleefully call them, are a third, maybe more, of the party.

                                          Go ahead, piss 'em off.

                                          Enjoy the Biden Death Watch for four more years

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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